Re: What are micro-services?

Hi Michael,

I am impressed how much you covers .. Dropwizard, ILEdocs, BlueDroplet ..
How much spare time do you have - or rather - you don't have.

You are also right about the option for the user. If they like noxDB for
JSON / XML / SQL the just include that in your project. But if you are
happy with an other solution or need to cater for some legacy kode - the
you also good to go - no problem.... And for that reason node.RPG ( or
ILEastic as it might be called ) - node.rpg and noxDB are two seperate
projects with no internal requirements to each other... Like you - I
appreciate my freedom to choose what ever is best in the given context.

Thank you for the heads up - I'll keep you posted after my vacation.



On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 8:47 PM Mihael Schmidt wrote:

Great to hear that you are thinking positive about such a move.

What I like about Dropwizard (Java microservice framework) is that it does
not dictate many things. You have the freedom of choice in many things. It
would be great if we could have that in the project too. The developer can
choose output format and the way to create the data in the chosen format.
If the developer likes to use noxDB he should be able to use it. If he
likes to create that data differently he should also be able to do that.

BlueDroplet is a hobby project of mine. I have no intention on making money
with it nor with services around it. It seems that your project could be
part of your portfolio, if not directly then with offering services
with/around it. It probably would make sense that you and your team keep
the project leadership and I would become a (hopefully very active)
committer.

I could also develop some tooling and stuff around the project. F. e. the
documentation could be done with ILEDocs, see BlueDroplet at
iledocs.rpgnextgen.com . I also planned to create a separate module
(plugin) for MiWorkplace for BlueDroplet, so that it would be much easier
to build and test the service. Funny thing is that a week after I had the
idea I have seen that Remain Software has already done something like my
idea for rest4i.

Best regards

Neils, Jack (Jack...thanks for the public comment about "busy people
don't always have time to chit-chat)

Neils - If you get a chance, take a look at Ballerina
(https://ballerina.io/ ) This is a sweet, simple to use language that is
already Docker, Kubernetes aware. I have only played with it a bit but
it is drop dead simple to use and seems to reflect what you are trying
to do.

Haven't looked into an IBM i deployment yet. There are dependencies
that haven't been met. But, it is a fun language to use and very
productive (and, Open Source!!)

Pete Helgren
www.petesworkshop.com
GIAC Secure Software Programmer-Java
Twitter - Sys_i_Geek IBM_i_Geek

On 7/25/2018 10:26 AM, Niels Liisberg wrote:

Jack - Thank you so much !!

Nod2RPG - not bad at all - i like it!!

Actually we have already moved the XML, JSON and SQL object graph out of
IceBreak - We call it noxDB ( Not only XML) and it is now a 100% open
source project now that anyone can use. Right now we have been using

RELIC

- since the code resides in source files, however it is not that elegant,
and we are changing that.

https://github.com/NielsLiisberg/noxDB

It makes it so easy to produce services with only these lines of RPG

code:

// load a resultset from the product table
sql = 'Select * from product';
pRows = json_sqlResultSet(sql);

// Produce a JSON responses
node_writeJson (pResponse: pRows );



On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 5:13 PM Jack Woehr <

jwoehr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

We're glad you are doing this fine work, Niels, it's a real service to

open

source on the IBM i!

Perhaps you could call it Nod2RPG ... When one "gives the nod to"

something

(an English and American colloquialism based on "nodding one's head
'yes'"), it means one approves doing things that way.

So your library will "give the nod 2 RPG" ... that is, we can still use

RPG

even in the web application era :)

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Niels Liisberg <nli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Thanks Jack and Michael for your interest.

"moving the IceBreak core to node.RPG" ... Today IceBreak i our

platform

at

System & Method to bring RPG to the web and is a huge stack.

Unfortunately

some of the key features are build around some Api's from IBM that we

have

signed a non disclosure agreement with IBM - So IceBreak can never be

open

source with the form it has to day. However the HTTP, load balancing,
pooling, fail-over features can easy be moved - So this is why i have
started the node.RPG project.

Node.RPG - Yes - maybe it is not a good name - Liam Allen asked me to
change the name for the exact same reason, and maybe I will, but some

of

the next ILE components like "require" and "express" will actually use

NPM

to install RPG components - so I am in limbo land here ... Please help

:)

Anyways - Node.RPG (or micro.RPG or ILE-drops or what final name it

will

have) - this is going to be 100% open source.



On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 3:06 PM Jack Woehr

<jwoehr@absolute-performance.

com>
wrote:

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 2:43 AM, Niels Liisberg <

nli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

wrote:

Take a look here - and tell me what you think:

https://github.com/NielsLiisberg/Node.RPG

Niels, very interesting! I like to learn about all the tools for

legacy

modernization/transformation that are pure open source.

When you talk about "entanglement" I know what you mean, but there's
another kind of "entanglement".

There is the "entanglement" of being tied to vendor solutions!

So my goal is to service customers with as pure open source as

possible

so

they can "take their toys and go home" any time they want to.

You seem to be working from the same idea.


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