Re: Looking for like-minded programmers who use the enhanced features of 5250 -- MIDRANGE-L

Native on IBM i yes, but I'm using the new YUM based approach that lands
everything in /QOpenSys/pkgs. SQLAlchemy(Kevin Adler published a DB2
connection for it) might be brought into the mix, but the thing I don't
like about it at this point (still very early in my research on it) is the
application can alter the database directly as part of the ORM that
SQLAlchemy has built in. I like the ORM, but I don't want developers
determining the Schema of the database directly. I just have not
discovered enough to know how to limit that.

RDi with the Python parts as an IDE.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects

On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Evan Harris <auctionitis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Jim

Are you running Flask natively on the i ? using the Python 5733OPS
component as a base ?

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Jim Oberholtzer <
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Richard is exactly right. We must start moving into areas where we can
present the new workers with what they expect. .Net, Java, Python (My
company has centered on Python/Flask for development after flirting with
several other technologies), node.js and others all offer the opportunity
to get into the new world at nearly no cost for the technology. Another
poster reminded us that the new entrants into technology will never enjoy
character mode development (5250) so they will learn some business and

then

move on to where they can enjoy development.

In my view it's business critical to do so.

Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects

On Jun 26, 2018, at 5:56 AM, Richard Schoen

<Richard.Schoen@helpsystems.

com> wrote:

I've written GUIs for GL uploads and other utility purposes for JDE

World.

You could write an HTML dashboard, inquiry or some other utilitarian

program for your power users and then often the laggards jump on board

once

they see how easy things are.

Unless your entire staff is retirement age you have to start trickling

out some modernization and sniff around for automation opportunities.

There's one question I use when looking for automation opps in a

business:

"Where is anyone in the business doing manual work 15-60+ minutes per

day ?"

This is a great way to get an internal automation or process

improvement

discussion open.

You don't need E1 to start moving forward.

Regards,

Richard Schoen
Director of Document Management
e. richard.schoen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
p. 952.486.6802
w. helpsystems.com
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message: 2
date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:23:28 +0000
from: Bob Cagle <bcagle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Looking for like-minded programmers who use the enhanced
features of 5250

Also don't forget the shops that are stuck with a green-screen ERP (JDE

World in my situation). Can I code new apps in modern GUI? Yes. Do the
users want it? No, not always. I've specifically been requested to code
new apps in green screen for uniformity.

p.s. Yes, we would love to upgrade to JDE E1 (modern GUI version), but

have an owner that has zero desire to spend the money.

Thanks

Bob Cagle
IT Manager
Lynk

From: Booth Martin

However there is the other camp , also very large, of programmers in

shops that are green screen and going to remain in green screen; shops

that

are stuck at V5R4, shops that are in the 8th year of their 90-day
transition to a "modern" solution, shops where the staff is sharply

divided

between The Ancients and >The Young Un's. These shops, for whatever

reason,

are staying with 5250 and, by default, still programming like it's 1992.

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