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The chip used in mainframes is still different than P8. I do think it's a
POWER type chip but it is a different processor.

If I understand it correctly there is hardware support for Z/OS in the P8
chipset, IBM just has not chosen to merge the production lines yet.


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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack
Woehr
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 12:14 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Meltdown and Spectre

It's an enigma wrapped in a conundrum embedded in a mystery ...

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I'm not so sure we should gloat yet - the verdict may be out - I saw a
reference to RedHat related to POWER.

And I don't think the 390 chip is a POWER chip, is it? I could easily
be wrong there.

Hope we ARE safe, of course!

Cheers
Vern

On 1/4/2018 10:57 AM, Jack Woehr wrote:

"Intel believes its products are the most secure in the world" -
https://newsroom.intel.com/news/intel-responds-to-security-
research-findings/

Tee-hee.

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Jack Woehr
<jwoehr@absolute-performance.c
om>
wrote:

IBM R0075 :)

While Intel systems are the ones known to have the defect, they may
not be

the only ones affected. *Some platforms, such as SPARC and IBM's
S390, are immune to the problem*, as their processor memory
management doesn't

need the split address space and shared kernel page tables;
operating systems on those platforms have always isolated their
kernel page tables from user mode ones.


Take that, Wintel Weenies :)

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 9:46 AM, <JWGrant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Great article explain in depth what is know at this time.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/01/whats-behind-the-
intel-design-flaw-forcing-numerous-patches/?comments=1&start=40


Jim W Grant
Senior VP, Chief Information Officer
Web: www.pdpgroupinc.com




From: "Bryan Dietz" <bdietz400@xxxxxxxxx>
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 01/04/2018 09:59 AM
Subject: Re: Meltdown and Spectre
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



I know should be moved to PCTECH list but the following is interesting.

I was doing some reading about the new flaw and found the following
for Linux changes ( https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/12/4/709 ).


<snip>
2) Namespace

Several people including Linus requested to change the KAISER name.

We came up with a list of technically correct acronyms:

User Address Space Separation, prefix uass_
Forcefully Unmap Complete Kernel With Interrupt Trampolines,
prefix fuckwit_
but we are politically correct people so we settled for
Kernel Page Table Isolation, prefix kpti_

Linus, your call :)
</snip>




Raul Jager wrote on 1/4/2018 9:23 AM:

According to the news, Meltdown is specific to Intel, if so, power
will be safe, but they say that Spectre does affect other
microprocessors.
Only x86, or also power?


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