Re: Temporary storage movement over a day

Far too many people don't get that there are often significant changes between releases that never make 'headlines'. Thus they argue that the new release 'doesn't bring them enough value.' Then there they are trying to figure out temp storage on a release prior to i 7.2 and 'oops, support not there for this tool! Should had that upgrade! :-)

That 'stuff beneath the waterline' is in fact important!!

Thanks Dawn!

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On 11/10/2017 8:28 AM, Dawn May wrote:

I've been watching this thread and thought some reference information about
the temporary storage accounting changes that were made in the IBM i 7.2
release might be helpful for many readers.
We completely revamped how we track temporary storage in the 7.2 rekease
and it is significantly improved from prior releases.
It was a pretty major change within the operating system, which is why none
of this support could be taken back to an earlier release.

This series of blogs covers the changed support in 7.2:

http://ibmsystemsmag.com/blogs/i-can/archive/72-improved-temporary-storage-tracking-part-1-/
http://ibmsystemsmag.com/blogs/i-can/archive/72-improved-temporary-storage-tracking-part-2/
http://ibmsystemsmag.com/blogs/i-can/archive/ibm-i-72-improved-temporary-storage-tracking-part-/
http://ibmsystemsmag.com/blogs/i-can/january-2015/ibm-i-7-2-improved-temporary-storage-tracking-(par/
http://ibmsystemsmag.com/blogs/i-can/april-2015/ibm-i-7-2-improved-temporary-storage-tracking/
http://ibmsystemsmag.com/blogs/i-can/july-2015/ibm-i-7-2-improved-temporary-storage-tracking-par/
http://ibmsystemsmag.com/blogs/i-can/april-2016/ibm-i-7-2-improved-temporary-storage-tracking-(par/
Dawn May
Program Manager: Large User Group (LUG), COMMON Americas Advisory Council (CAAC),
COMMON Europe Advisory Council (CEAC)
IBM i








From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 11/10/2017 02:11 PM
Subject: RE: Temporary storage movement over a day
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Rob,

Is that for V7R2 or V7R3?
V7R1 yeields

select * from qsys2.systmpstg
SYSTMPSTG in QSYS2 type *FILE not found

Paul

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Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 7:41 AM
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I was wondering when someone was going to refer to select * from
qsys2.systmpstg; (I took yesterday off.)

Also, keep up to date on the "recommended fixes", especially those dealing
with temporary storage.
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas8N1021480

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From: Charles Wilt <charles.wilt@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 11/09/2017 06:04 PM
Subject: Re: Temporary storage movement over a day
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Take a look at

select * from qsys2.systmpstg;

Charles

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Don Brown <DBrown@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks Charles

Any ideas how would one get the temporary storage used by SQL per job in
an attempt to reconcile back to the current temporary storage in use ?



Don Brown





From: "Charles Wilt" <charles.wilt@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion"

<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: 10/11/2017 08:50 AM
Subject: Re: Temporary storage movement over a day
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No.

Much of the SQL related temp storage is not scooped to a job.

Charles

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Don Brown <DBrown@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Should the Current temporary storage used = the sum of Temporary

storage

shown on the WRKACTJOB (press F11 twice) display ? at V7R2 or V7R3



Don Brown





From: "B. Dietz" <bdietz400@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion"

<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: 10/11/2017 08:24 AM
Subject: Re: Temporary storage movement over a day
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here is a good doc:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas8N1019501 <
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas8N1019501>

I used this formula in the simple CL program

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Bryan

On Nov 8, 2017, at 10:34 PM, Don Brown <DBrown@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello All,

I was wondering if I could get some feedback in relation to the

temporary

storage values on busy systems from the WRKSYSSTS display. Both

current

and peak.

I have check about 10 systems and all are under 10000 but none of

these

systems are very large or very heavily utilised.

One system though has a figure of 130,640 and looking at a

performance

graph this grows through the day and decreases overnight - just

seemed

rather high to me but may be normal on a busy system. The system

has

3450

active jobs currently.

Appreciate any comments.

Thank you

Don Brown

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