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Well, I've been able to determine that triggers appear to be the same on our
system as on the customer box with the OEM software, so therefore likely not
a problem. I compared a system without the OEM software to one that has the
OEM software on it and I don't see much in the way of differences at the
object level. All the triggers are after Insert, update, and delete, and
since I'm just reading that can't be the source of the issue.

I'm going to have to dig into it a bit further to determine why a query
runs great on our system, and fails with trigger issues on the customer box.



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-----Original Message-----
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Krill, Coy
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 2:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Remove (temporaritly) Triggers

Dspfd will show you the code that created the view or you can pull the code
out of qsys2.sysviews. I'm still on v7r2 so I don't have that collection to
check what the tables are.

Coy Krill
Core Processing Administrator/Analyst
Washington Trust Bank

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Subject: RE: Remove (temporaritly) Triggers
Importance: Low

Would that not disable all the triggers on the system? I'm only after the
ones for the security collection. The rest of them need to stay in place.


So the root question is do we know the names of the tables that are used
with the QSYS2.AUTHORITY_COLLECTION view? Maybe a naïve question, but an
honest one at least. I've not delved into those tables much yet.


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I believe the HA products do this by disabling the triggers. Such as
CHGPFTRG STATE(*DISABLED)

Production:

Trigger Description
Trigger name . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : TRG QSYS_TRIG_ERPLXF_
____IIM________000002
Trigger library . . . . . . . . . . . . . : ERPLXF
Trigger state . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : STATE *ENABLED
Trigger status . . . . . . . . . . . . . : *OPERATIVE
Trigger event . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : TRGEVENT *INSERT
Trigger time . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : TRGTIME *AFTER
Allow repeated change . . . . . . . . . . : ALWREPCHG *NO
Program Name . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : PGM SYS638B
Library . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : ERPLXPTFO


H/A:

Trigger state . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : STATE *DISABLED
Trigger status . . . . . . . . . . . . . : *OPERATIVE

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From: Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 09/25/2017 02:58 PM
Subject: Remove (temporaritly) Triggers
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Folks:



I am working on a security project where we are using V7R3 and the authority
collection capability. The goal is to analyze the data and set up object
access in a much better way.



The Customer has purchased several products from Help Systems, to bolster
their tooling, to which I have no problem at all, they are very reasonable
products, they do however present a challenge. Apparently they put
several
triggers on the database tables that QSYS2.AUTHORITY_COLLECTION uses, so we
cannot write our own SQL against it to do any special reporting we might
wish to do that might not be included in the tooling.



How do I disable the trigger(s) temporarily? I thought CHGPFTRG would work
but I have not been successful yet.





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