RE: How do you determine if a server isstill being used -- MIDRANGE-L

Thanks for your reply Johnathan
As previously mentioned

My question is - if the server hasn't been used in some time
(whatever that time period is) why do we need to even start it

THAT'S the $64,000 question
What is that time period that determines something is no longer being used

Alan Shore
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On Tue, 2017-08-29 at 19:38 +0000, Alan Shore wrote:

Thanks for your reply Rich
That makes sense and that is my intention

One point of note... it may be that a server is rarely used, but when its needed not having it could be a show stopper.

Possible case in point, the http administration server:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/ssw_ibm_i_72/rzaie/rzaieconadminstarting.htm

Also, its worth noting that having an active server that is not being used will ultimately end up being, mostly, paged out of memory.

That said, stopping some servers might be useful as a way to prevent unauthorised or less restricted access where the restriction is/was originally enforced by program/menu security. But that is a whole different rabbit hole that just gets deeper the further you investigate.

Alan Shore
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Alan,

I'll be that if you look in your QSTRUP program, you'll find a start for
the *HTTP server that specifies *ALL server instances. Since this server
instance exists, then it is getting started. If it is not being used,
don't waste resources on keeping it active.

Rich Loeber - @richloeber
Kisco Information Systems
[1]http://www.kisco.com

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On 8/29/2017 3:29 PM, Alan Shore wrote:

Thanks for your reply Bradley
My question is - if the server hasn't been used in some time
(whatever that time period is) why do we need to even start it

I am going to extremes here - but if I can prove that a server hasn't been used in 5 or more years - why is it even in the mix?
Is there a need for it to be started?

Alan Shore
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Phone [C] : (631) 880-8640
'If you're going through hell, keep going.'
Winston Churchill

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The job log or job details should show that.

But HTTP jobs are started "as needed" most of the time. There shouldn't be a reason to end any of them. If you want to start fresh, just end that instance of the HTTP server and restart it.

Bradley V. Stone
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On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Alan Shore [7]<ashore@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi everyone
Before I forget - we are on V7r1
Looking under the QHTTPSVR subsystem (WRKACTJOB SBS(QHTTPSVR)) - we
have a number of jobs with PGM-QZHBMAIN PGM-QZSRHTTP PGM-QZSRCGI Under
the Function column, but with the same job name

My question is - how can I determine when was the last time these jobs were used?

The reason for my question is that we have a number of jobs each with
a slightly different name The difference being the last character, 1
or 2 or 3 They very well could be different jobs and ALL being used I
just need to check if we still need them all

Hope that this makes sense

I just read this web page - but it doesn't really help me with my
question [8]http://ibmsystemsmag.com/ibmi/administrator/websphere/
smarter-work-management/?page=4

Alan Shore
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