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Surely ordering *everything* just consumes time at the other end of the
process when you need to review all the cover letters of the PTFs you don't
need.

What PTF's - and how many - are you seeing that are genuinely important and
critical ?

Do they make it onto the next cume ?

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Steinmetz, Paul <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Rob,

I've been finding too many important and critical PTFs that never make it
to a cum or group.
PTF ordering process becoming too time consuming.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Rob Berendt
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 3:58 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: DCR request - order any PTF not part of any cum or group

It probably never will.

And, there are some reasons why not.
1 - Some PTF's control the way things work. Remember when WRKACTJOB was
changed to default to Activation Group but if you ordered a ptf it changed
the default behavior back to previous methods? Consider these toggle
switch PTF's.
2 - FUD. IBM came out with a PTF to fix an issue that only Rob reported.
No one else has experienced this. Maybe Rob does something really unique.
Yes, IBM did good regression testing, etc. However they are loathe to
shotgun it to everyone unless
A) It is highly risky to NOT have it.
B) Numerous people requested it and it didn't kill them.



Rob Berendt
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 02/21/2017 03:48 PM
Subject: DCR request - order any PTF not part of any cum or group
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Many years ago, I had a DCR request for a possible new PTF order.
SF99712 - any PTF not part of any cum or group.
It never materialized.

Any thoughts from the group?

Thank You
_____
Paul Steinmetz
IBM i Systems Administrator

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