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On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Are you using a spam service? We use Message Labs.
CHGSMTPA
Forwarding mailhub server . . . 'CLUSTER5.US.MESSAGELABS.COM'

Basically we route through them. The network guy had to log on into
Message Labs and give it people who route through them.

Rob Berendt
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Group Dekko
Dept 1600
Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive
Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





From: Jeff Crosby <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 02/16/2017 03:04 PM
Subject: Re: Email direct from IBM i without relay (was: New lower
cost IBMi announced)
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



It pains me that the IBM i needs Windows in order to send email. That's
what sticks in my craw. I want the IBM i to not need another server to
send email.


On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Richard Schoen <
Richard.Schoen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm not an Esend expert since that's another department, but if you are
relaying emails with Esend already there's really nothing you need to do
to
change.

You're getting it out of the 400 to a proper mail relay as fast as
humanly
possible. Good !!

I can't speak for Brads stuff or other HS stuff, but some of the RJS
components already support secure email relaying as does the AutoMate
product which I work with quite a bit which is like CL programming for
Windows. AutoMate supports secure SMTP as well as relaying using the
standard outlook web access APIs.

AutoMate can also pick up and send the same documents created by SEQUEL
and also does about 599 other things so there's value if you're looking
to
enhance your email processes.

Brad's supposition is that Microsoft is removing SMTP relaying. My
supposition is Not :-)

Since SMTP has, let's see.....ALL the email traffic in the world I don't
think it's going anywhere any time soon so you're fine with Esend as is.
Make sure to get a vote in to the SEQUEL support team if you want true
SMTP
relaying or let me know if you want to take a look at any of our other
items.

Happy to do a technical demo any time.

Regards,


Richard Schoen
Director of Document Management
e. richard.schoen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
p. 952.486.6802
w. helpsystems.com
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message: 6
date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:54:09 -0500
from: Jeff Crosby <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Email direct from IBM i without relay (was: New lower cost
IBM i announced)

Richard,

Let me ask you a question. We use ESEND (ever heard of it? :) ) to send
loads of email reports to employees and customers. It uses the IBM i
SMTP
server to email. We have to use an email relay service installed on a
Windows server in order to do this.

If we were to hire Brad, would he be able to do something on the IBM i
so
that this Windows relay is not needed? And would ESEND still work? Or
is
it totally dependant on the IBM i SMTP service?




On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Richard Schoen <
Richard.Schoen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Shhhhh :-)

Actually I don't think it's really an issue.

Anything like MSF that may still require port 25 can use an internal
IIS
relay or other relay that uses TLS to forward messages.

It also looks like O365 connectors can still be configured to allow
port
25 and secure relaying.

It's probably cool technically that Brad hooked up to O365 proprietary
APIs, but I don't think SMTP relaying is going away anytime soon for
O365
users from what I can see.

Just have to point them to the right set up for O365 unless Brad has
some
hard evidence.

I couldn't find it :-)

Regards,


Richard Schoen
Director of Document Management
e. richard.schoen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
p. 952.486.6802
w. helpsystems.com

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message: 1
date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 16:15:54 -0600
from: "Paul Nelson" <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: New lower cost IBM i announced

You're gonna upset your ESEND folks. :-)

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 409-267-4027
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx



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