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For what it's worth, you may want to investigate the software package from
Jobscope. That package is designed for custom manufacturers, and allows
actual costing at the order level.

I had a customer who did custom work, and switched from JDE to Jobscope
after JDE admitted they can't do actual costing at the order level.

http://www.jobscope.com/


Paul Nelson
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Office 409-267-4027
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-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob
Cagle
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 3:05 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: new cume out for 7.1

John

All good points. Our annual maintenance has yet to increase drastically, so
there is no cost-cutting move available. It's less than $5k per year, and
my last quote for a new Power 8 was over $40k, including all licensing
transfers.

But our goal is to stay supported, so once IBM announces EOL for 7.1, we
will be making a move for sure.

As for the size of the shop, I agree; I was surprised how small they were
when I first started. They've been an IBM shop for years though. I started
in 2001 to help them convert to JDE from Daly & Walcott. Lynk is a
'contract manufacturer', which means we still do the work of a company with
maybe around 100 or so employees, but we contract most all of it out. JDE
is the software they picked that had the support for what we do, tracking
inventory and production at multiple locations, which meant staying on the
i.

Thanks

Bob Cagle
IT Manager
Lynk


-----Original Message-----
From: John Yeung

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Bob Cagle <bcagle@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
We still pay for support. Problem is the i5 520 is still performing just
fine for my 5 users. We've never really taxed the machine.

Fact is our sales are currently not good, so a $40k+ upgrade just isn't in
the budget. And yes, I've offered leasing options.

I guess maybe my question should have been more blunt: If your boss wants to
stay supported, at what point will the cost of the support become high
enough to upgrade?

For us, we upgraded when the cost of a brand-new system plus three years
support was cheaper than paying three years of support for our old system.
In other words, the upgrade would pay for itself in three years.

We didn't have any particular complaints about the performance of the old
system. It was actually a COST-CUTTING measure to buy the new system.

(The performance and extra storage capacity was of course noticed and
welcomed, once we completed the upgrade. It's kind of sick how fast it is
now.)

All that being said, it is pretty surprising to me that such a tiny
operation is an i shop. Not saying that's a bad thing by any means, just not
what I would expect.

John Y.


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