Re: SAVE 21 and stay restricted

[Jeff Crosby <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Because the recovery steps are different.  Neither I nor the tech has
recovered a full system from a BRMS save (I've never had to recover ANY
system by any means).  The tech company requested a SAVE 21 so that's what
I'm going to give them.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Steinmetz, Paul <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> Just curious.
>
> Why are you doing a Save 21 if you have BRMS?
> Why not do a similar process from BRMS?
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Jeff Crosby
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:22 AM
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> Subject: Re: SAVE 21 and stay restricted
>
> We have BRMS as well.
>
> I did a RTVCLSRC on QMNSAVE.  There's no STRSBS in there.  And there's no
> CHKTAP either, but I know a SAVE 21 does one.
>
> That CL program is not CL 101 methinks.  :)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Jim Oberholtzer <
> midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > wrote:
>
> > The "21" save is really just a CLP  (QMNSAVE) that IBM wrote to back
> > up the system.  So to stop the system from coming back up modify the
> > program so the very last step does not start the controlling
> > subsystem.
> >
> > Better yet, create a new start up program that only sends a message to
> > the operator message queue that says "I ran!" and then stops.  That's
> > the easiest.  When you're done set it back to normal.
> >
> > This is all assuming you do not have BRMS as well.
> >
> > --
> > Jim Oberholtzer
> > Agile Technology Architects
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > Jeff Crosby
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:54 AM
> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > Subject: SAVE 21 and stay restricted
> >
> > IBM i 7.1, up to date on PTFs.
> >
> > Saturday I will be doing a SAVE 21 prior to a cache battery replace.
> > The SAVE 21 will be attended because I'm using a library device.
> >
> > When finished with the SAVE 21, I would like the system to stay in
> > restricted state.  The tech is going to fail the cache battery at that
> > point and we'll issue a PWRDWNSYS.  It seems like a waste to start the
> > controlling subsystem only to immediately shut it down again.
> >
> > I found this http://www.itjungle.com/fhg/fhg051612-story03.html but
> > it's from 4 years ago and seems overkill for a one-off.
> >
> > Question:  Because it's attended, when the command comes up at the end
> > to start the controlling subsystem, what happens if I hit F12?  Or F3?
> > Will that work and leave it restricted?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Jeff Crosby
> > VP Information Systems
> > UniPro FoodService/Dilgard
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> Jeff Crosby
> VP Information Systems
> UniPro FoodService/Dilgard
> P.O. Box 13369
> Ft. Wayne, IN 46868-3369
> 260-422-7531
> www.dilgardfoods.com
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