Re: Customer issue with SMTP

The reason most IBM shops don't use a mail router is because they don't
know they should, or don't think of the IBM i the same as they think of a
PC client when it comes to send emails.

"It's just always worked". They don't understand the path the mail takes,
why mail servers require Reverse DNS entries, and many other things.

Rarely should you send email without a mail router. To use a mail router
on the IBM i and use QtmmSendMail (or SNDDST or SNDSMTEMM?) you need to use
CHGSMTPA and set Mail Router to the mail router, firewall to *YES and if
you're on V6R1 or up, set forwarding hub server to the same as the mail
router. Any changes require a restart of the SMTP server.

There's normally more and if I recall I may have other setup at in our
MAILTOOL FAQ page at http://docs.bvstools.com. Just find MAILTOOL and the
FAQ page. It's really a cluster of a setup if you ask me.

If your mail router requires authentication, SSL, TLS or heaven forbid
OAuth 2.0, then with QtmmSendMail you may be out of luck. IBM's SMTP
system is way behind in the times for functionality.

Our MAILTOOL software will allow you to send mail no matter the mail router
or requirements. We also just created an addon to MAILTOOL that lets you
use Office 365 and OAuth 2.0 through their new Office RESTful APIs.

Office 365 SMTP servers don't allow OAuth2.0 , and never will and even
their outlook SMTP servers are deprecated and going away, and I think
Google may follow suit which means using RESTful APIs to send email... I
am seeing the beginnings of the end of SMTP server, at least for the big
boys I believe.

Contact me offline if you want more help. :)

Brad
www.bvstools.com

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Reasons for routing through the company mail servers can be anything from
- they then route through a service which checks outbound emails for
viruses
- audit purposes
- only certain devices can use the smtp port going outbound

Want to hack the system?
Try this on your system
CRTUSRPRF DUMMY PASSWORD(DUMMY)
Just those parameters, no special authority.
Prompt CHGSMTPA. You only see *SAME and get the message
CPD680A because you do not have authority

so the hack is this:
http://youribmi:2001
log on as DUMMY.
Network, Servers, TCP/IP Servers, SMTP, Properties.

You have the keys to the kingdom.

bcc'ing you a screen shot.




Rob Berendt
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From: "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 06/22/2016 02:01 PM
Subject: Customer issue with SMTP
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



As many here already know, our CRM product uses QtmmSendMail when it
needs to send programmatically-generated email.

We have a customer that is having problems. To quote (censored for
privacy):

From an email I read all email from [customer] should be routed and
sent through [customer's parent company's] email servers (probably
due to an audit). I attempted to restart STMP and MSF (with option
*CLEAR) but STMP will not start.

Clearly, the fact that "SMTP will not start" is a key issue, since
without QTSMTPxxxx jobs (and I verified that none are running),
QtmmSendMail isn't going to do anything.

Now, looking at our own box, I see that the second page prompt screen
for CHGSMTPA has a "mail router" (MAILROUTER) parameter (*NONE in our
case), but if I've ever had to set that parameter up, I have no
recollection of how.

Unfortunately, our account on the customer's box is blocked from even
inspecting the values in the CHGSMTPA prompt screen (all we see is
nothing but "*SAME").

Can anybody refer me to anything that can help? Documents? Mr. Stone's
MAILTOOL?

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