Re: HMC 5250 console, 132 column support

[Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well I think of Opus - when I think of Bill the Cat!

On 3/17/2015 10:06 AM, Paul Nelson wrote:
> Not trivializing at all. I still think of Bill when I hear the name.   :-))
>
> Paul Nelson
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim
> Oberholtzer
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 9:57 AM
> To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
> Subject: RE: HMC 5250 console, 132 column support
>
> Paul:
>
> Being a member of the CAAC is more than going to the Annual Meeting every
> year.  It's a commitment to cover many of (but not all) the travel costs for
> two meetings a year, one at the Annual Meeting and one in Rochester each
> winter/spring.  It also requires periodic phone conferences and research
> time.    A CAAC member is expected to have a wide knowledge of the system,
> with an emphasis on development and application needs.  It's not a trivial
> volunteer position to have.
>
> Trivializing the work the CAAC does, it not helpful.
>
> --
> Jim Oberholtzer
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> Agile Technology Architects
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>
> -----Original Message-----
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> rob@xxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 9:44 AM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: RE: HMC 5250 console, 132 column support
>
> I don't get to COMMON often enough.  Drove me bat... crazy that work
> wouldn't send me to Indy.  Cripes!  It's only a 2 hour drive!  I haven't got
> the money to go by myself.
>
>
> Rob Berendt
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>
>
>
> From:   "Paul Nelson" <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To:     "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
> <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date:   03/17/2015 10:36 AM
> Subject:        RE: HMC 5250 console, 132 column support
> Sent by:        "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>
>
> Sounds like Rob needs to join CAAC.
>
> Whenever I hear that name, it reminds me of Bill the Cat
>
> http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/0/3125/1341295-btc.jpg
>
>
> Paul Nelson
> Cell 708-670-6978
> Office 409-267-4027
> nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim
> Oberholtzer
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 9:31 AM
> To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
> Subject: RE: HMC 5250 console, 132 column support
>
> It's still the volunteers that make the decisions Paul, it's just
> enshrined
> in the CAAC now.
>
> --
> Jim Oberholtzer
> Chief Technical Architect
> Agile Technology Architects
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Paul
> Nelson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 9:19 AM
> To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
> Subject: RE: HMC 5250 console, 132 column support
>
> << But will COMMON care about "closed" requirements?>>
>
> Back in the old days, volunteers judged the merits of a requirement before
> passing them on to IBM. IBM hung on to the requirements after stating
> something like "business requirements don't justify doing this".
>
> Just because something is simple doesn't mean IBM is going to allocate
> scant
> resources to it.
>
> Paul Nelson
> Cell 708-670-6978
> Office 409-267-4027
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> rob@xxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 9:14 AM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: RE: HMC 5250 console, 132 column support
>
> But it is SUCH a simple change.  Why should IBM argue it and say use a
> regular session?
>
> But will COMMON care about "closed" requirements?
>
>
> Rob Berendt
> --
> IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail
> to:  2505 Dekko Drive
>            Garrett, IN 46738
> Ship to:  Dock 108
>            6928N 400E
>            Kendallville, IN 46755
> http://www.dekko.com
>
>
>
>
>
> From:   "Jim Oberholtzer" <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To:     "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
> <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date:   03/17/2015 10:03 AM
> Subject:        RE: HMC 5250 console, 132 column support
> Sent by:        "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
> The fact that they closed it does not mean they did it.
>
> As of the latest code for the HMC with latest service packs, still 80
> column.  Does not matter what emulator you use, it's not going to happen.
>
> 5250 emulation is so small a requirement for the HMC given the cloud based
> functions etc. they are building in the requirement was most likely
> dropped
> as not important enough.  COMMONs coming up, maybe we can get an audience
> with the right folks there.
>
> An argument can be made that the console should not need 132 column
> support
> since anything but the most basic operations should be done with a
> "regular"
> session that does have 132 column support.  I suspect it's going to be a
> long row to hoe......
>
> --
> Jim Oberholtzer
> Chief Technical Architect
> Agile Technology Architects
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> rob@xxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 8:50 AM
> To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: HMC 5250 console, 132 column support
>
> Somewhere they must have added 132 column support for the HMC 5250 console
> because my COMMON requirement 318 was closed by Carl Novit.
> However I can't seem to get 132 columns to work.
> I am using IBM i Client Access Solutions 1.1.4 build 5063.
> I created an HMC console session.  Communications, Configure says 27x132.
> Uses this device:
> Device description . . . . . . . . :   DSP010000
> Device class . . . . . . . . . . . :   *LCL
> Device type  . . . . . . . . . . . :   3179
> Device model . . . . . . . . . . . :   2
>
> However DSPPFM is still only showing 80 columns.
>
>
> Rob Berendt
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> to:  2505 Dekko Drive
>            Garrett, IN 46738
> Ship to:  Dock 108
>            6928N 400E
>            Kendallville, IN 46755
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