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Thank You very much for your help, Rob & Jim.

You're right we recently upgraded to 6.1 and we are on side B, of a single Lpar m/c with no HMC. I will probably apply the PTFs next weekend.


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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:53 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: PTF Install - Not Found & Pre-apply status

Rob is correct, you should check that, but I'll guess based on your post you do believe your machine is IPLd to the B side. Your question, if you download and apply the missing PTFs will the groups show installed after that is yes they will. Using WRKPTFGRP and some of the options on that command will help you discover what's missing.

I've had that happen quite a bit with V6R1, very occasionally with V7R1 and
I can't recall it happening on V7R2 at this point. Usually it happens in
conjunction with a TR or major number of groups being applied all at once.

It's not a big deal and most of the PTFs that are missing are small enough to download directly, although they may need an IPL to apply.

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 7:33 AM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The first thing I would do is to determine which side you are running,
A or B. We recently had an incident in which we 'assumed' we were on
the B side to only find out we were only on the A side. This causes a
lot of grief with PTF application. To determine which side you are on do this:
DSPPTF
You should see:
IPL source . . . . . . . . . . . . . : ##MACH#B
If this ends with an A instead of B you will have troubles.

This often happens when you've recently upgraded your OS. That kicks
you over to the A side. That is what happened to us.
Multiple ways to get back to the B side:
- PWRDWNSYS OPTION(*CNTRLD) DELAY(120) RESTART(*YES) IPLSRC(B)
- On a single lpar machine with no HMC you can set the buttons on your
front panel to select the B side.
- On the HMC you can set that partition properties to IPL from the B side.
It's a good idea to verify 2 and 3 in case you ever have to cold start
your machine. Like from a complete power failure or some such thing.


Rob Berendt
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From: Rama Ravichandar <rama.ravichandar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 02/24/2015 04:14 PM
Subject: PTF Install - Not Found & Pre-apply status
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Our system is on V6R1, and the PTF Groups for Java & HTTP, display
that there are some PTFs in the Not Found status.
I wanted to confirm that after installing the individual PTFs, the PTG
group would have a status of Installed. Is there anything else that I
would have to do?
There are some PTFs from the CUME pkg that have a message - Pre-apply
temporarily & Pre-apply permanently.
Is that ok? What do I have to do so that they are applied either
temporarily or permanently?




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