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I've seen something similar, never found the answer.
As Rob stated, the subsystem is a job also.
Could the subsystem job hit some sort of system limit (splf , msgq, threads, etc) , preventing any new jobs from starting.

Possibly related, I've seen where a lock, (outq QEZJOBLOG) keeps jobs from ending, thus no new jobs would start in a single-threaded jobq.

Paul

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Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:37 AM
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Subject: Re: Jobq that loses its Subsystem

Sort of like having QBASE being your controlling subsystem but it's in a restricted state. Someone starts QBATCH and it gloms on to that job queue. They start QBASE but it can't grab that job queue because it's allocated to QBATCH. Now they end QBATCH and the job queue is no longer being processed.
I can see that happening.
Especially in a Domino shop.

Good thought Larry.

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From: DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 01/13/2015 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: Jobq that loses its Subsystem
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Amy,

I can think of only two ways that can happen:

1) Someone made changes to the subsystem.
2) There is another subsystem that also has a job queue entry for this
jobq. For this to be the issue that OTHER subsystem would have to be
started first, then the subsystem in question. Then the first subsystem
would be stopped leaving the jobq hanging. Because you do not have to
re-add the jobq to the subsystem (ADDJOBQE) this is the likely scenario
in my mind.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.frankeni.com
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On 1/13/2015 11:09 AM, AHoerle@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

I have a Subsystem that runs a critical application. Associated with it
is a job queue that has jobs submitted to it multiple times per day.
Nothing special there... Occasionally (2 times in 2013 and 2 times this
month) the job queue shows a number of jobs ready and the status of the
job queue is release. However; there is no subsystem! If I end and
restart the subsystem the problem is fixed. This is so strange to me.
Anyone experienced anything like this? Any ideas what could be going
on?
I have opened a PMR with IBM as well and am working on collecting the
requested data...

Thank you!

Amy Hoerle
System Administrator
Think Mutual Bank
5200 Members Pkwy NW, Box 5949
Rochester, MN 55901

507-536-5815 or
800-288-3425 Ext 5815
ahoerle@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


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