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I ordered 5 more groups and they all went lickety-split. I don't know what
the problem was earlier today.


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Jeff Crosby <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

Thanks Jim, I didn't have that PTF, but I do now.

Before that I ordered the *DB2GRP, *JVAGRP, *BRSGRP, and *HTTPGRP. They
seemed to complete in a reasonable time.

Now I'm going to continue to push my luck by ordering more groups. :)





On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jim Essinger <dilbernator@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

Jeff,

For the SF99711 PTF, Dawn May has a very recent article that points to a
required PTF. You have to have PTF SI51438 applied before using the
SNDPTFORD command. Her article can be found at:

http://ibmsystemsmag.blogs.com/i_can/2014/01/sf99711.html

I did not have PTF SI51438 as of yesterday, and have downloaded an applied
it to our 5 partitions, but I have not ordered group SF99711 yet to see if
I get different results.

I just thought to throw that into the discussion.

Jim Essinger
Western Power Sports
Boise, ID


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Jeff Crosby <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:

I started this in another thread in another forum, but it belongs here
and
deserves a thread of it's own.

There's something really flaky going on with SNDPTFORD.

Earlier today I did a SNDPTFORD SF99711 (the all groups one) and it
seemed
to run normally, though I thought I should have gotten more PTFs.

There has been some confusion as to whether that PTF is truly up to
date,
so I though what the heck, I'll order each group individually and see
if I
get anything additional.

So I submitted another job that orders each group individually. This
job
starts with the hiper group and it failed. So I did a SNDPTFORD PTFID
SF98710 and it worked, though it was horrendously slow.

So then I tried SNDPTFORD *HIPERGRP interactive from a command line.
There
were 199339 bytes to download and it stayed at 64% for over 5 minutes.
Speed went down to 1376bps. Took 18 minutes and downloaded no PTFs.
Everything was either "already applied" or "already available on the
system".

So then I tried SNDPTFORD *DB2GRP interactive from a command line. Said
there were 172413 bytes but I never got anything. I heard the /MODEM/
screaming in the computer room. We haven't done PTFs via modem in ages.
It isn't even connected to a wall jack anymore.

Ran an errand, came back and did the SNDPTFORD PTFID SF98710 again and
it
worked again. So I got brave and tried the SNDPTFORD *DB2GRP once more.
This time it worked, though it took xx minutes and was as slow as
2333bps.


The other thing is I got an email from IBM this morning regarding PTFs
with
this link:



https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/IBMElectronicSupport/entry/fix_central_updates_20140110?lnk=uctug_ibmesa_dctml_2014-01-10_fix_central_updates_20140110myn&lang=en

which I think has come up here before regarding not being able to get
certain PTFs if you don't have hardware service with IBM (which is
another
problem that will have to be addressed).

Do you suppose that thousands of customers got this email and went into
panic mode, ordering PTFs? Overwhelming the system right now?





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