Re: Back ups with High Availability Web Server -- MIDRANGE-L

I don't see much difference between VSS and IBM i's Save While Active...

Except that SWA has been available since at least 1997 or 1996...probably
longer.

The problem is too many shops don't bother to use it.

Charles

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Matt Olson <Matt.Olson@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

First question is have you ever restored one of these? How does the
operating system come up when you do that?

Yes, comes up in recovery mode the first bootup, subsequent bootups are
normal.

Second is what are you doing with those servers? Are these hosting large
Oracle or MSSQL Databases or are they file and print servers? Or are they
just AD members that are used for remote desktop for example.

100GB database servers, print servers, file servers, web servers, you name
it. Everything in windows these days have volume shadow copy providers.

IBM i really needs something like Windows volume shadow copy service so
you can achieve 100% up time during backups.

This is the only reason why I see AS400 shops are down periodically, had
the database been hosted on one of a windows box we would have much better
uptime.

-----Original Message-----
From: DrFranken [mailto:midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 3:21 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Back ups with High Availability Web Server

Matt,

First question is have you ever restored one of these? How does the
operating system come up when you do that?

Second is what are you doing with those servers? Are these hosting large
Oracle or MSSQL Databases or are they file and print servers? Or are they
just AD members that are used for remote desktop for example.

There is a large difference between a transaction oriented system and a
system hosting many flat (or 'stream') files.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com
www.iInTheCloud.com

On 11/12/2013 4:06 PM, Matt Olson wrote:

IBM really needs to fix this issue. Put in a Design Change Request to

allow for online backups like you can do with Windows. We do full (bare
metal) backups of our windows machines all the time, no downtime required.

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