One level, except for the IFS . . .
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stone, Joel
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 3:51 PM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: separate DEV, TEST, & PROD environments survey
I am not slamming anything or anyone - just asking a question.
How can stating facts be taken as slamming?
You asked a question "I fail to see how having only 1 level of libraries matter. "
And I tried to answer it.
If my response is incorrect, please state what is incorrect instead of attacking me.
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of TheBorg
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 4:45 PM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: separate DEV, TEST, & PROD environments survey
Joel -
Perhaps you need to better understand how naming conventions work, instead of slamming the best and most secure machine and operating system ever created...
You are not going to make any friend or get much assistance here with your attitude.
-sjl
"Stone, Joel" wrote in message
news:mailman.7098.1378330960.9013.midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx...
"I fail to see how having only 1 level of libraries matter. "
One level of hierarchy seems antiquated in that all other OS's allow many levels.
For example, any other OS could have the following folders:
PROD env
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JDE 9.0 containing program lib + data lib + config lib etc
JDE 8.0 containing program lib + data lib + config lib etc SAP 2.0 containing program lib + data lib + config lib etc Lawson 3.0 containing program lib + data lib + config lib etc
TEST env
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Ditto above
DEV env
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Ditto above
It doesn't seem possible to do this on iseries as a library cannot have a hierarchal group above or below, only one level is allowed. So people use multiple LPARs or boxes to get around this constraint that doesn't exist on other OS's.
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles Wilt
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 4:05 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: separate DEV, TEST, & PROD environments survey
I've worked in all three types...just depends on the size of the company.
I fail to see how having only 1 level of libraries matter. For that matter, every single RDBMS I'm familiar with only allows a single level of schemas.
Once the shop gets big enough, separate LPARs or boxes is probably most common.
Charles
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Stone, Joel <Joel.Stone@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What constitutes separate DEV, TEST, & PROD environments at your
organization?
Must they exist on separate LPARS? Separate boxes?
Or can they all exist on one LPAR with adequate border fences?
Would it be practical to exist on one LPAR and still comply with SOX
and GAAP and a typical big auditing company's security audit?
Or is that not possible in the Iseries world with the antiquated only
one level of libraries and such?
Thanks in advance!
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