Re: PTF install questions

Thanks Rob.

From previous posts, I somehow got the idea that pefmanent application did

the cleanup. In fact, our disk usage is down considerably, so *some*
cleanup was performed. Which may have led me to believe the save files
would have also gone away.

Any idea why DSPPTF is still insisting that a server IPL is required? And,
how to get rid of it?

This link leads me to believe the upgrade to v5r4 years ago missed
something:

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v5r3/index.jsp?topic=%2Frzahc%2Fpostinstallationchecklist.htm

Found this post from a long time back. You stated that RESTART(*YES) did
not qualify as a server IPL and that entire frame would have to be IPLed.
Does that mean changing restart type from *IPLA to *FULL - this is non HMC
system. Any wild guess how much longer an IPL takes when *FULL is
specified? Beyond IPL time, are there any other negatives? Is this a
sleeping dog that is best ignored?

John McKee

John McKee


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 8:33 AM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Applying a PTF permanently does not get rid of that PTF's save file. What
it gets rid of is just a little more complicated.
Let's say PTF SF00001 fixes PGMA in QSYS. As part of the temporary apply
of SF00001 it backs up PGMA into a new save file; let's say QSF00001S1.
Then it restores the new PGMA from QSF00001. QSF00001S1 will stay there
until you permanently apply SF00001. Then it's gone. However that
doesn't get rid of QSF00001. For that, see

http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v7r1m0/topic/rzam8/rzam8fixcleanup1.htm

Now, if you upgrade your OS and haven't applied SF00001 permanently before
the upgrade you will have QSF00001S1 out there for all eternity. This is
why you should always apply PTF's permanently before upgrading your OS. I
figured this out the hard way and had these back up files from several
releases back.

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From: John McKee <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 08/28/2013 09:21 AM
Subject: PTF install questions
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx



Been a LONG time since I have IPLed the system.

Yesterday, I permanenyly applied all PTFs not requiring an IPL. Then, set
the others to apply during next IPL. I initiated the IPL and all went
well.

I was looking for some ancient PTFs that I had previously seen in QGPL
that
had been located by ANZOBJCVN. I was surprised by the large number of
SAVF
still in QGPL.

For instance, DSPPTF for 5722999 shows MF41260 as permanenyly applied.

Bottom of screen is message CPD35F8 Server IPL required.

On PWRDWNSYS, restart type is set to *IPLA and DSPIPLA shows *SYS for
restart type.

The SAVF is named QMF41260. Could this be a duplicate and thus just be
deleted?

What about the message stating server IPL required?


Thanks.

John McKee
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