Re: PTF install questions

[John McKee <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Rob.

> From previous posts, I somehow got the idea that pefmanent application did
the cleanup.  In fact, our disk usage is down considerably, so *some*
cleanup was performed.  Which may have led me to believe the save files
would have also gone away.

Any idea why DSPPTF is still insisting that a server IPL is required? And,
how to get rid of it?

This link leads me to believe the upgrade to v5r4 years ago missed
something:

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v5r3/index.jsp?topic=%2Frzahc%2Fpostinstallationchecklist.htm

Found this post from a long time back.  You stated that RESTART(*YES) did
not qualify as a server IPL and that entire frame would have to be IPLed.
Does that mean changing restart type from *IPLA to *FULL - this is non HMC
system.  Any wild guess how much longer an IPL takes when *FULL is
specified?  Beyond IPL time, are there any other negatives?  Is this a
sleeping dog that is best ignored?

John McKee

John McKee


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 8:33 AM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Applying a PTF permanently does not get rid of that PTF's save file.  What
> it gets rid of is just a little more complicated.
> Let's say PTF SF00001 fixes PGMA in QSYS.  As part of the temporary apply
> of SF00001 it backs up PGMA into a new save file; let's say QSF00001S1.
> Then it restores the new PGMA from QSF00001.  QSF00001S1 will stay there
> until you permanently apply SF00001.  Then it's gone.  However that
> doesn't get rid of QSF00001.  For that, see
>
> http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v7r1m0/topic/rzam8/rzam8fixcleanup1.htm
>
> Now, if you upgrade your OS and haven't applied SF00001 permanently before
> the upgrade you will have QSF00001S1 out there for all eternity.  This is
> why you should always apply PTF's permanently before upgrading your OS.  I
> figured this out the hard way and had these back up files from several
> releases back.
>
> Rob Berendt
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> From:   John McKee <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To:     Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> Date:   08/28/2013 09:21 AM
> Subject:        PTF install questions
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> Been a LONG time since I have IPLed the system.
>
> Yesterday, I permanenyly applied all PTFs not requiring an IPL.  Then, set
> the others to apply during next IPL.  I initiated the IPL and all went
> well.
>
> I was looking for some ancient PTFs that I had previously seen in QGPL
> that
> had been located by ANZOBJCVN.  I was surprised by the large number of
> SAVF
> still in QGPL.
>
> For instance, DSPPTF for 5722999 shows MF41260 as permanenyly applied.
>
> Bottom of screen is message CPD35F8 Server IPL required.
>
> On PWRDWNSYS, restart type is set to *IPLA and DSPIPLA shows *SYS for
> restart type.
>
> The SAVF is named QMF41260.  Could this be a duplicate and thus just be
> deleted?
>
> What about the message stating server IPL required?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> John McKee
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