Re: COMMON Europe -- MIDRANGE-L

I know in the past they had huge conferences. I am talking more than 10
years ago. I know vendors like Cybra used to go there. Pete Massielo goes
there he may shed more light.

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Dan Kimmel <dkimmel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

I know no specifics of this situation, but let me pitch in a little info
here.

The organizational structure of COMMON Europe is very different from
COMMON (US). Common Europe is a congress of individual country users group.
There's representation on the board from each of the country user groups.
So the reference to " change of IBM policy towards European umbrella user
groups" may indicate that IBM has decided to spend more on the national
user groups. Many of these national users groups have their own conference
each year.

This may have to do with the economic situation in Europe. Germany is
doing quite well, thank you, while Spain, and Portugal, and maybe even
Italy are suffering. I can see IBM making a decision to spend more of their
marketing dollars in Germany.

Pure speculation on my part.

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Subject: RE: COMMON Europe

Read the article. It said the expo was sold out but the number of
delegates actually going was very low.
http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh052013-story03.html

Is European travel (for Europeans) more expensive than North American
travel is for Americans? I would think that everything so tightly packed
together would make it easier. But perhaps that's countered by you can't
swing a cat without crossing some country's boarders and perhaps that adds
an expense. Maybe the location, while nice, was expensive. COMMON America
has been battling this occasionally.

Are European's more inclined to not travel and rely more upon other
methods of getting educated?

Or is the economy really tanked over there?

Let's not blame IBM for all of this. If IBM refused to send a team to
your local user group when the only people attending it were your board of
directors would that be a sign that IBM is dropping support for a broad
product line or just an economic decision? After all, if it was your
marketing money for your company and it cost just as much to physically
market to some kid with a banjo on a bridge in some backwater rural area
than it was to target electric or printed media reaching a much larger
audience wouldn't you rather you get more bang for your buck?

Rob Berendt
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From: Richard Schoen <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 05/22/2013 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: COMMON Europe
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You never know if it's budget related, market related or politically
motivated.

In any case a bummer for the EU folks.

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message: 7
date: Wed, 22 May 2013 14:16:04 +0000
from: Paul Fenstermacher <PFenstermacher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: COMMON Europe

There's a small story buried in the IT Jungle e-mail on Monday about
COMMON Europe cancelling the June conference. Included is this verbiage:

* IBM has traditionally been our major sponsor, as our events are
aimed primarily at users of the POWER platform. However in 2013 there has
been a change of IBM policy towards European umbrella user groups and this
support has been vastly reduced.
At short notice, the availability of several key speakers from the U.S.
has been withdrawn. This would have forced us to dramatically change the
structure and the quality of an agenda which has taken many months to
compile. In the short time remaining, we feel this simply would not be
feasible.

Later in the article is this information:

"four key speakers (who were not identified) from the United States and
who were presumably from IBM were withdrawn, and that messed up the
agenda."

Most of us can probably guess who those four might be but this doesn't
seem like a good thing for the Power platform. Trevor, Allison, Pete,
Jim, Dr., Dawn, Jon, Susan, anyone care to shed some light??

Paul Fenstermacher | Sys/NW Admin,Sr | Corporate Systems - POWER Systems
Administration | Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.(r)
663 West Highway 60 | Monett, MO 65708 | Ph. 417.235.6652 | x177389 |
pfenstermacher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:pfenstermacher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

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