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RE: Long SAVSYS

Becky,

Here are my times from last system save, no omits, 25 minutes, LTO5 fiber attached, 8gb fiber channel.


10 *EXIT *******
20 *SAVSYS FFFFFFF
30 *IBM FFFFFFF *NO *NO
40 *ALLUSR *SYSBAS FFFFFFF *ERR *NO
50 *ALLDLO FFFFFFF *NO *NO
60 *LINK *ALLAVL FFFFFFF *YES *NO
70 *EXIT *******

3/29/13 18:56:10 Begin processing for control group SAVSYS06 type *BKU.
3/29/13 18:56:28 Interactive usage check indicated no user jobs active on
3/29/13 18:59:42 Item *SAVSYS will be saved using serial device resources.
3/29/13 18:59:44 Change to media controls successful.
3/29/13 18:59:44 Change to media controls successful.
3/29/13 18:59:45 Starting SAVSYS to devices TAPMLB01.
3/29/13 19:24:35 Save System (SAVSYS) command has completed processing.
3/29/13 19:24:37 SAVSYS is complete.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bakutis, Becky
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 4:23 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Long SAVSYS

In the past my savsys was consistently 90 minutes which is still too long. The time never changed after an IPL until now. The savsys ran from 2:19 until 3:48:

4/21/13 2:19:15 Begin processing for control group SAVSYSLTO4 type *BKU.
4/21/13 2:19:16 Devices TAPMLB09 will be used for control group SAVSYSLTO
4/21/13 2:19:17 Interactive user QSECOFR with job DSP01 exempted from aut
4/21/13 2:19:17 Interactive usage check indicated no user jobs active on
4/21/13 2:19:19 Change to media controls successful.
4/21/13 2:19:20 Change to media controls successful.
4/21/13 2:19:20 Starting SAVSYS to devices TAPMLB09.
4/21/13 3:48:45 Save System (SAVSYS) command has completed processing.
4/21/13 3:48:47 SAVSYS is complete.

I am going to check to see if I have a tape drive issue next. Does anyone else save the IBM items in the ifs? In the past I would save *LNK, but found that took way too long so I contacted IBM and they suggested this:

Display Link List (DSPLNKLBRM)

Type choices, press Enter.

List . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > QIBMLINK Character value
Objects:
Name . . . . . . . . . . . . . > '/QIBM/ProdData'
Include or omit . . . . . . . *INCLUDE *INCLUDE, *OMIT

Name . . . . . . . . . . . . . > '/QOpenSys/QIBM/ProdData'
Include or omit . . . . . . . *INCLUDE *INCLUDE, *OMIT
Directory subtree . . . . . . . *ALL *ALL, *DIR, *NONE, *OBJ
Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > 'All IBM directories'

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 12:37 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Long SAVSYS

Becky,

Your first save after an IPL will be longer than normal, per IBM document.
Once every object is touched 1st time, save will be quicker.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 3:32 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Long SAVSYS

Becky,

If you look at the DSPLOGBRM type(*bku) can you tell what steps ran the longest?

From my system:
Date sent Time sent Message
4/06/13 17:43:14 Begin processing for control group DTFULL type *BKU.
4/06/13 17:43:17 Devices TAPGRT01 will be used for control group DTFULL ty
4/06/13 17:43:17 Interactive users are allowed to stay active.
4/06/13 17:44:05 Change to media controls successful.
4/06/13 17:44:05 Change to media controls successful.
4/06/13 17:44:05 Starting SAVSYS to devices TAPGRT01.
4/06/13 17:50:25 Save System (SAVSYS) command has completed processing.

4/06/13 17:50:26 SAVSYS is complete.
4/06/13 17:50:39 Starting *IBM backup, type *FULL.
4/06/13 17:50:39 Change to media controls successful.
4/06/13 17:50:39 Change to media controls successful.
4/06/13 17:50:39 Starting save of library *IBM to devices TAPGRT01.
4/06/13 17:50:41 1 blocks processed for sequence 43, volume BR0205, on dev
4/06/13 17:50:44 27 blocks processed for sequence 44, volume BR0205, on de
4/06/13 17:50:54 94 objects saved from library QAPTL.
...
4/06/13 17:57:20 1 objects saved from library Q1ABRMSF01.
4/06/13 17:57:20 84 libraries saved at 04/06/13 17:50:39.
4/06/13 17:57:23 Backup *IBM, type *FULL complete.
4/06/13 17:57:23 Starting *ALLUSR backup, type *FULL.
4/06/13 17:57:23 Change to media controls successful.
4/06/13 17:57:24 Change to media controls successful.
4/06/13 17:57:24 Starting save of library *ALLUSR to devices TAPGRT01.

4/06/13 17:57:25 1 blocks processed for sequence 128, volume BR0205, on de
4/06/13 17:57:30 173 blocks processed for sequence 129, volume BR0205, on
4/06/13 17:57:35 276 objects saved from library QSYS2.
...
4/06/13 18:07:42 27 libraries saved at 04/06/13 17:57:24.
4/06/13 18:07:49 Change to media controls successful.
4/06/13 18:07:49 Change to media controls successful.
4/06/13 18:07:49 Starting save of library QUSRBRM to devices TAPGRT01.

4/06/13 18:09:18 22116 blocks processed for sequence 156, volume BR0205, o
4/06/13 18:09:25 246 objects saved from library QUSRBRM.
4/06/13 18:09:26 Backup *ALLUSR, type *FULL complete.
4/06/13 18:09:26 Change to media controls successful.
4/06/13 18:09:26 Change to media controls successful.
4/06/13 18:09:33 16 document library objects saved.
4/06/13 18:09:34 Change to media controls successful.
4/06/13 18:09:34 Change to media controls successful.
4/06/13 18:09:34 Starting save of list *LINK to devices TAPGRT01.
4/07/13 0:39:18 Volume BR0205 on device TAPGRT01 is density *ULTRIUM3.

4/07/13 0:39:20 1738661 blocks processed for sequence 158, volume
BR0205,
4/07/13 0:39:20 End of volume BR0205 reached on device TAPGRT01.
4/07/13 0:39:20 End of volume detected for file QSYSTAP in QSYS.
4/07/13 0:39:21 1871854 blocks processed for sequence 158, volume
BR0217,
4/07/13 0:39:21 End of volume BR0217 reached on device TAPGRT01.
4/07/13 0:39:21 End of volume detected for file QSYSTAP in QSYS.
4/07/13 0:39:21 2057199 blocks processed for sequence 158, volume
BR0212,
4/07/13 0:39:21 End of volume BR0212 reached on device TAPGRT01.
4/07/13 0:39:21 End of volume BR0212 reached on device TAPGRT01.
4/07/13 0:39:21 End of volume detected for file QSYSTAP in QSYS.
4/07/13 0:39:21 1241526 blocks processed for sequence 158, volume
BR0073,
4/07/13 0:39:21 1766630 objects saved.
4/07/13 0:48:33 Save of list *LINK complete.
4/07/13 0:48:35 Starting save of media information at level *LIB to
devic
4/07/13 0:48:40 Change to media controls successful.
4/07/13 0:48:40 Change to media controls successful.
4/07/13 0:48:55 427 blocks processed for sequence 159, volume BR0073,
on
4/07/13 0:49:05 15 objects saved from library QUSRBRM.
4/07/13 0:49:06 Save of BRM media information at level *LIB complete.

4/07/13 0:50:52 Control group DTFULL type *BKU processing is complete.


Sometimes that *LINK can be significant! Of course, when your *link includes nine Domino partitions...


Rob Berendt
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http://www.dekko.com





From: "Bakutis, Becky" <BBakutis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 04/22/2013 02:32 PM
Subject: Long SAVSYS
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx



I IPL'ed and applied PTFs this weekend. I ran a SAVSYS plus other IBM
items and it took 1 hour 50 minutes. Is there anything I can check to
clean up? I am using an LTO 4. Other systems take less than 1 hour for
this process, but this is the largest system. Here is the BRMS control
group:


Backup List Parallel Private
Seq Items Type Type Authorities Encrypt
10 *EXIT
20 *SAVSYS
30 *IBM *NO
40 QIBMLINK *LNK *DEFAULT *NO *NO
50 *EXIT

Display Link List (DSPLNKLBRM)

Type choices, press Enter.

List . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > QIBMLINK Character value
Objects:
Name . . . . . . . . . . . . . > '/QIBM/ProdData'
Include or omit . . . . . . . *INCLUDE *INCLUDE, *OMIT

Name . . . . . . . . . . . . . > '/QOpenSys/QIBM/ProdData'
Include or omit . . . . . . . *INCLUDE *INCLUDE, *OMIT
Directory subtree . . . . . . . *ALL *ALL, *DIR, *NONE, *OBJ
Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > 'All IBM directories'




Becky Bakutis
Systems Engineer
Republic Services

480.627.2760 (w)
bbakutis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


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