Re: IBM i Now Supports USB Flash Drives

[Jack Kingsley <iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx>]

Don, if you had to rebuild your system, how long do you figure it would
take you using your current backup method.

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> wrote:

> The point of the original post was not for keeping a save file for
> occasional backups or transferring files, yes we have been doing that
> for some time. The poster was considering using a USB attached device
> for a primary back up medium. Larry's point was USB attached storage of
> that type will be too slow and unreliable as compared to tape.
>
> If your discussing Winders, then make sure you point that out, since not
> everyone on the list will understand it.
>
> Jim Oberholtzer
> Chief Technical Architect
> Agile Technology Architects
>
> On 2/5/13 5:53 PM, Don wrote:
> > Jim,
> >
> > I was talking in a WINDOWS environment..and I do system transfers and
> > recoveries in that environment ALL THE TIME....  Usually a minimum of 500
> > gig a pop...1+tb's is a norm....NO PROBLEMS...NO DATA LOSS....
> >
> > As for using it in an "I" environment....uh, how many of us have been
> doing
> > binary FTP's of save files for how long now????   And, yes, it works JUST
> > FINE!:)
> >
> > DR2
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:49 PM
> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > Subject: Re: IBM i Now Supports USB Flash Drives
> >
> > And when was the last time you did a real recovery from that device? Not
> > just an object or two but a real recovery on IBM i?
> >
> > Jim Oberholtzer
> > Chief Technical Architect
> > Agile Technology Architects
> >
> > On 2/5/13 4:45 PM, Don wrote:
> > > > With all due respect to Dr. Franken, I've been using WD USB attached
> > > > external drives for offline server storage/backup/recovery for about 10
> > > > years now without any problems that I wouldn't encounter in a tape
> > > > environment...:)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DrFranken
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 5:07 PM
> > > > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > > > Subject: Re: IBM i Now Supports USB Flash Drives
> > > >
> > > > Good theory I suppose but USB 2.0 is nowhere near the speed of LTO
> > > > (35MB/s theoretical vs 120MB for LTO4 and 140MB for LTO5)
> > > >
> > > > Plus I wouldn't personally trust that 'el-cheapo' WD drive as much as I
> > > > would an LTO tape when being transported on and off-site. RDX is much
> > > > better suited for that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >           - Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis
> > > >
> > > > www.frankeni.com
> > > > www.iDevCloud.com
> > > > www.iInTheCloud.com
> > > >
> > > > On 2/5/2013 4:52 PM, Don wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > If you have USB availability, why can't you then attached external
> > drives
> > > > > > > > for offline backup, etc?  I can get a 4tb WD external for a few
> hundred
> > > > > > > > bucks...should be LOTS faster than tape and not to mention
> CHEAPER!:)
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott
> Klement
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:41 PM
> > > > > > > > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: IBM i Now Supports USB Flash Drives
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I was actually just listening to that info, here:
> > > > > > > > http://bit.ly/WLpWOS
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Some pretty neat stuff in TR6
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 2/5/2013 3:22 PM, Bryan Dietz wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://ibmsystemsmag.blogs.com/i_can/
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Holy cow!  Brain is spinning....
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Today, IBM is adding support to use USB Flash Drives as a
> second type
> > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > RMS technology. Flash drives can hold as much data as
> multiple DVDs
> > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > can typically access the data much faster. This allows a much
> more
> > > > > > > > > > > > convenient way to move data (either IFS or save data) to
> another
> > > > > > > > > > > > machine. IBM does not qualify nor recommended any particular
> device,
> > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > typical USB 2.0 devices from 2 to 32GB have been used in our
> testing.
> > > > > > > > > > > > </snip>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Bryan
> > > > --
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