RE: New COMMON Conference -- MIDRANGE-L

Heh. I was a foreman on a highway job in West Virginia in 1971, at the ripe
young age of 21. I had 12 truck drivers, 6 operators, and two grade checkers
working for me. They all looked at me kind of funny the first day, until I
showed them that I could do their jobs just as well as they could.

Apparently they never expected a long haired Yankee hippy could jam gears
and move rock like they could.

Plus, I was responsible for them getting paid when I did the timesheets and
production reports.

:-))

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ryan
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 1:34 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: New COMMON Conference

And you used to have to fill out time cards while walking uphill with
no shoes in the snow.

Darn kids...get off my lawn!

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Paul Nelson <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

We're talking about construction job sites here, not an office environment
or even a factory floor.

North of the Mason-Dixon line, these sites are typically manned by workers
from different trade unions. Some of them even require paper copies of
timecards or timesheets when they come in to do their audits.

If the job is time and materials, many of the customers for whom the work

being done require their personnel to sign the timesheets and invoices as
well as putting their own cost codes on each sheet of paper.

Technology has been a late arrival to the industry, except for the
engineering and heavy equipment arenas. Nowadays, a grader operator's job

made much simpler by mounting laser receivers onto the blade to coordinate
with the laser set up by the grading foreman.

Bunch of babies. We used to do it with hand levels, folding wooden rulers,
wooden stakes and eyeballs.

I did this kind of stuff for a living before getting into this line of

work

38 years ago. Enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7m7xHYUaTQ

:-))

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryce Martin
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:07 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: New COMMON Conference

Why are you still manually keying time cards in 2012?

Thank You
Bryce Martin
National Ticket Company
570-672-2900 ext. 226

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Nelson
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 5:37 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: New COMMON Conference

OK, now key 150 time cards in time to make a union payroll.

:-))

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Schoen
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 4:35 PM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: New COMMON Conference

You can roll a jQueryMobile theme in green and black and viola !!

Green Screen Mobile :-)

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message: 7
date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:22:13 -0500
from: "Paul Nelson" <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: New COMMON Conference

FWIW, for a construction company, nothing beats a green screen for
banging in time cards and invoices.

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Klement
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 4:19 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: New COMMON Conference

FWIW.... I agree with your users. When I see green screen, I go
"ewwwwww", too.

However, I don't like that you are associating GreenScreen=IBMi, and
GUI=Windows.

You can (and should!) write GUI apps on IBM i. I've been telling people
to do that for 10+ years. Your users shouldn't know or care where the
data resides... what they should know/care about is that it's stable,
and always there when they need it. And IBM i excels at that.

Take iPhone, iPad, Android phones, Blackberries... all easy to use GUI

interfaces, none of them are Windows in any way shape or form. How
about XBox, Wii, PS3... all easy to use GUI devices, no Windows
involved.

IBM i can be a major player in that world too, using GUI technologies
like web. The only reason you still code green screens is because you
(or someone else in your environment) has made that choice.

Note that we actively discourage green-screen sessions at COMMON. (Much
more so than Richard's .NET sessions!)

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