Re: RE - Java 7

[Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

LOL - we are probably saying the same thing, basically. In both CAAC and 
ISV Advisory we've heard about these things, and there is always a bit 
of confusion over just what it means. Maybe in practical terms it ends 
up being all the same.

IBM does distinguish between the TR PTF group and other fixes/changes 
made at the same time. As to what is in the TR PTF group, here is a 
description from a wiki on developerworks -

"Future deliveries of new hardware-related and firmware-related function 
for IBM i 7.1 are planned as updates to the Technology Refresh PTF Group."

There's nothing here about DB2, for example, but they do try to deliver 
DB2 & other PTFs at the same time.

Elsewhere they say that a TR is LIC only - I think this still gets very 
confusing, so maybe it's just easiest to lump it all together.

All in all, it makes a less disruptive upgrade to our systems - that's a 
good thing.

Vern

On 5/25/2012 8:57 PM, DrFranken wrote:
> I would respectfully disagree that the TRs are Hardware Only.  For
> example I did a session at COMMON on the networking enhancements in TR3.
> These enhancements work on any hardware supported by IBM i 7.1 and on
> networking adapters that are so old they lay on the shelves of the
> Frankenlab, so they are certainly not hardware only updates.
>
> Clearly supporting new hardware is one of the things that TRs bring to
> the system but they are not the only thing!!
>
>        - Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis
>
> On 5/25/2012 9:42 PM, Vern Hamberg wrote:
> > Strictly speaking, TRs are hardware-only - things that are added to the
> > OS to let it work with new hardware.
> >
> > But IBM is putting out software changes on the same schedule - so even
> > IBMers tend to speak of the whole thing as a TR. The schedule tends to
> > be twice a year, and they can focus on certain functional areas maybe
> > every other TR-time, maybe with more general items in between. Something
> > like that, anyhow.
> >
> > This way of doing fixes does have some advantages - we no longer have to
> > wait for major releases to get new and interesting functionality. So we
> > get new database stuff without having to wait for the 7.2 release -
> > whatever the next one is.
> >
> > At least that's what they've told us in some meetings!!
> >
> > Vern
> >
> > On 5/25/2012 10:04 AM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > I submitted feedback (via that button) in that section of Infocenter that
> > > if they're abandoning point releases and just using TR's then they should
> > > document all this in there since these will not arrive on the physical
> > > media.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rob Berendt