Re: Is 6.1 'beta' and 7.1 the more stable release?

Rob, OK I misread your comments, sorry.

Most of my customers are just now getting over the OEM vendor maintenance issues and therefore are starting to move to V7 (jumping V6) at a good clip. Those that have no plans to upgrade are migrating off the platform, all due to OEM software vendors either dropping support for IBM i (mostly) or they have bought the M$ marketing hype. Some of them are just stuck in a bad economy.

Those that stay at V6 are doing it because OEM vendors are stopping them there, although that list is starting to be really really short.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 5/17/2012 7:42 AM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

Jim,

I was being honest. I was the one spreading the FUD. I am the one
encouraging 7.1. I have full faith that IBM is fully supporting 6.1 and
7.1. V5R4 dies in September as it states in
http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/i/planning/upgrade/suptschedule.html
as the longest supported OS in the history of the line. Totally blowing
away all previous records.

I just don't get people upgrading to 6.1 and not 7.1. Vendor issues?
Switch vendors. I switched change management vendors and others because
they dragged their feet on getting to 6.1. I'm sure not going to stick by
someone who can't get from 6.1 to 7.1 when 7.1 has been GA for over two
years.


Rob Berendt
-- IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738 Ship to: Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com From: Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Date: 05/17/2012 08:26 AM Subject: Re: Is 6.1 'beta' and 7.1 the more stable release? Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Rob, I'm not sure what your driving at, but both V6 and V7 are stable solid releases. While IBM would clearly like to see everyone get to V7 as soon as they can, they still support V5R4 (for a limited time now) and V6. PTFs are built for each system. If an error is found that needs to be corrected in all of the environments they develop the fix, test, and release it usually in order. Most of the time a single developer or maybe a pair of them work on the fixes, hence Dawn's comment about one at a time. The group PTFs are done much the same way, schedule one at a time, get them through testing and release them. There is not a "Beta" test done with PTFs like they tend to do with a full version Release, so I'm not sure where your going with that. PTFs are fully tested prior to release, but that is different than a Beta test. Where's the FUD? No one is trying to hide anything or discourage the use of one level over another, rather they discuss the advantages of the upgrade. Jim Oberholtzer Chief Technical Architect Agile Technology Architects On 5/17/2012 6:51 AM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Dawn,
>
> Intentional FUD. Trying to discourage people from staying on 6.1 with
> some misguided belief that since it's older it must be more stable. 7.1
> has been Generally Available for over two years now.
>

http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/i/planning/upgrade/suptschedule.html

>
>
> Rob Berendt
> -- IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept
> 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738 Ship to: Dock 108
> 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755http://www.dekko.com From: Dawn May
> <dmmay@xxxxxxxxxx> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Date: 05/16/2012 04:22 PM Subject: Re: Is
> 6.1 'beta' and 7.1 the more stable release? Sent by:
> midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Hi Rob - nope, no beta, no testing.
> All PTFs when made available are expected to be complete. A developer
> can't complete two sets of PTFs at exactly the same time - so in
> general, you'll see them create fixes for the oldest release first
> then propagate the change to the most current release. Dawn From:
> rob@xxxxxxxxx To:midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Date: 05/09/2012 02:11 PM
> Subject: Is 6.1 'beta' and 7.1 the more stable release? Is IBM
> 'testing' ptf's on 6.1 by releasing them there first and then
> releasing the 7.1 versions a week or two later? Let's look at the
> planned release for DB2 group ptfs athttp://tinyurl.com/db2group or
>

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/wikis/home?lang=en#/wiki/IBM%20i%20Technology%20Updates/page/DB2%20for%20IBM%20i%202012%20Group%20PTF%20Schedule

> and many of the enhancements match this up. Look at left window under
> functional enhancements. Rob Berendt -- IBM Certified System
> Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko
> Drive Garrett, IN 46738 Ship to: Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN
> 46755http://www.dekko.com --

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