Sorry Rob, that's not the way I read it
" We work directly with production software all the time."
"(And the word "promotion" doesn't even really apply.)"

If I am wrong, then apologies all around


Alan Shore
Programmer/Analyst, Direct Response
E:AShore@xxxxxxxx
P:(631) 200-5019
C:(631) 880-8640
"If you're going through Hell, keep going" - Winston Churchill


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 11:20 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: survey: frequency of in-house coded software enhancement promotions to production

Frequent promotion does not exclude testing. I see nothing in there which inferred that he didn't have a test/development lpar, a user review committee and so on. Heck, as far as you know, he may have even purchased automated testing tools to run that through a battery of tests. Might even have display or web emulators to test it out.


Rob Berendt
--
Group Dekko
Dept 1600
Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive
Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





From: Alan Shore <ashore@xxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 04/25/2012 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: survey: frequency of in-house coded software
enhancement promotions to production
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx



Yikes
So your method is "LIVE" testing.
How large a change are you allowed/willing to do?
What do you do if you have to introduce a new process that the system
presently does not have?



Alan Shore
Programmer/Analyst, Direct Response
E:AShore@xxxxxxxx
P:(631) 200-5019
C:(631) 880-8640
"If you're going through Hell, keep going" - Winston Churchill

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Yeung
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:57 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: survey: frequency of in-house coded software enhancement
promotions to production

Nathan replied to the list, and I don't mind sharing my responses, so I
will do likewise.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Stone, Joel <Joel.Stone@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
How often does your shop promote in-house source code enhancements to
production?

This question almost doesn't make sense in our shop. "Promote"? We work
directly with production software all the time.

Ages ago (long, long before I started) the company bought software (that I
guess we would call an ERP today), including source code.
That software got customized beyond all recognition and is now essentially
our company's own custom ERP. We have three RPG programmers, and all of
us just compile directly to production at our discretion.

1) Frequency of promotions into Production of home-grown software
enhancements (not break/fix patches & not vendor upgrades) - ie daily,
weekly, monthly, or anytime.

Any time. (And the word "promotion" doesn't even really apply.)

2) Do you agree with the frequency?

Yes. For our shop and our software, it would not be cost-effective (and
perhaps just plain not effective) to have more layers, more bureaucracy,
and more formal processes.

3) What problems do you see with the frequency?

It does depend on the three of us knowing what we're doing, and
communicating with each other. (So it's not resistant to incompetent or
unprofessional team members. But all of us have been here more than 10
years, and we haven't added anyone new in that time.)

John
--
This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing
list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe,
unsubscribe, or change list options,
visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l
or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a
moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.


Disclaimer: This message contains confidential information and is intended
only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you
should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the
sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake
and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be
guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted,
corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses.
The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions
in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail
transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy
version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author
and do not necessarily represent those of the company.

This thread ...

Replies:

Follow On AppleNews
Return to Archive home page | Return to MIDRANGE.COM home page

This mailing list archive is Copyright 1997-2019 by midrange.com and David Gibbs as a compilation work. Use of the archive is restricted to research of a business or technical nature. Any other uses are prohibited. Full details are available on our policy page. If you have questions about this, please contact [javascript protected email address].