Due to limitations in the SDMC and its overall performance I have not recommended to any of my customers that they migrate away from the HMC to SDMC. As Larry pointed out there are some annoying limitations to this product that make it a questionable choice at this time. If I am spending my own money, I'll go with HMC regardless of the difference in upfront cost.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 4/9/2012 12:24 PM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Try this chart:
https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/sas/f/power5cm/power7.html

look for:
Systems Director Management Console: This release level is not supported
by SDMC



Rob Berendt
-- Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738 Ship to: Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com From: William.Epperson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Cc: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Date: 04/09/2012 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Configuring Brand New ISeries ASMI / HMC Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Good to know, I hadn't heard that before. Do you have the chart that shows which Power7's are incompatible with the SDMC? Would appreciate that information as we begin migrating off of our CR2 HMC and these two other CR3's. We still have too many older systems to completely get rid of our HMC's at the moment, but we're getting there, gradually. Thank you, William G. Epperson Jr. Systems Communications Analyst II 2420 East Pikes Peak Colorado Springs, CO 80909 Office: 719-365-8831 Mission: To provide the highest quality health care Vision: To create an outstanding health system where patients heal and people thrive Values: Compassion - Integrity - Quality - Respect - Teamwork www.memorialhealthsystem.com The information contained in or attached to this electronic message is privileged and confidential, intended only for the use of the individual (s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please inform the sender immediately and remove any record of this message. From: rob@xxxxxxxxx To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 04/06/2012 10:14 AM Subject: Re: Configuring Brand New ISeries ASMI / HMC Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Some of the largest power 7's won't work with sdmc according to a chart I was looking at earlier. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738 Ship to: Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com From: William.Epperson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Cc: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Date: 04/06/2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Configuring Brand New ISeries ASMI / HMC Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx You may look at just running an SDMC console and setting that up. I have heard that there are some things that the SDMC still will not do that a physical HMC will do. I know that IBM is trying to get off of the HMC and they're pushing either the SDMC or Systems Director. I also know you can run an SDMC as a virtual server but it must include a "second" ethernet device for connecting into the HMC side of the Power7 systems in order to manage them. I'm researching this for our installations to see if it makes sense to drop a virtual machine on my Linux virtual cluster rather than trying to run it in our VMware environment. It'll just be a matter of piping another vlan into my linux cluster. If you want to make it simple, just run a small Linux workstation and install it with two ethernet devices. It doesn't need much resources to run, but there must be a DHCP server on that private network to generate the IP's for the Power7 systems. https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/aixpert/entry/systems_director_management_console_sdmc_redbook_get_yours_now2?lang=en Thank you, William G. Epperson Jr. Systems Communications Analyst II 2420 East Pikes Peak Colorado Springs, CO 80909 Office: 719-365-8831 Mission: To provide the highest quality health care Vision: To create an outstanding health system where patients heal and people thrive Values: Compassion - Integrity - Quality - Respect - Teamwork www.memorialhealthsystem.com The information contained in or attached to this electronic message is privileged and confidential, intended only for the use of the individual (s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please inform the sender immediately and remove any record of this message. From: rob@xxxxxxxxx To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 04/06/2012 05:23 AM Subject: Re: Configuring Brand New ISeries ASMI / HMC Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Kirk, How do I reconcile what you've said: No More HEA's on the E4C models. With what James said: We have: HMC1, HMC2, S1, S2, T1-T4. Isn't T1-T4 indicative of HEA? Or is there some sort of other 4 port ethernet card? And, as another poster said, I was a little confused also as to whether he wanted HMC or Lan Console. - We can access ASMI, but can't seem to run an HMC device. - ...but still can't seem to get the Operations Console going... So my first answer leaned towards Lan Console. But let me duck back to HMC. I wonder what sort of HMC. Our HMC's are too old for Power 7 equipment. Let's see, 720 http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/wikis/download/attachments/53871900/HMC +and+Firmware+AIX+VUG_Feb+2011.pdf?version=1 POWER7 requires HMC firmware level V7.710 or later and http://www-933.ibm.com/support/fixcentral/firmware/readme?fixid=MH01273#enhance7740 If an HMC is used to manage any POWER7 processor based server, the HMC must be a model CR3 or later model rack-mount HMC or C05 or later deskside HMC. We have CR2's. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738 Ship to: Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com From: Kirk Goins <kirkgoins@xxxxxxxxx> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Date: 04/05/2012 04:53 PM Subject: Re: Configuring Brand New ISeries ASMI / HMC Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx No More HEA's on the E4C models. They are using a 5767 Dual Port GB NIC instead. It can NOT be split or Virtualized across partitions. So if you want real External Ports for each partition, you will need cards for each partirtionThe Top Port will be where the system looks for the LAN CONSOLE. The card I believe by default will be in Slot C6. On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:57 PM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> There are better minds than me on this list when it comes to that. But
> I'll give it a shot. HEA is Host Ethernet Adapter. T1-T4 are those.
And
> since it's brand new and I suspect cost more than a can of pop out of
the
> soda machine I'd call IBM on a whim if you're still stuck. Most
customers
> don't belittle you for calling IBM and grabbing that life line. They'd
> rather belittle you for taking days to get done the 'simple' stuff.
>
>
> Rob Berendt
> --
> Group Dekko
> Dept 1600
> Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive
> Garrett, IN 46738
> Ship to: Dock 108
> 6928N 400E
> Kendallville, IN 46755
> http://www.dekko.com
>
>
>
>
>
> From: James LeLeux<james.leleux@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> Date: 04/05/2012 03:51 PM
> Subject: Configuring Brand New ISeries ASMI / HMC
> Sent by:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Just got a 720 Power ISeries in yesterday and am having a heck of a time
> getting it configured for Operations Console. The box I was using last
> couple of weeks is a few years old, so it was a bit different and went
> ever
> so smoothly.
>
> We can access ASMI, but can't seem to run an HMC device. Have a Neoware
> appliance that I've used for my other box, but can seem to get it to see
> the new box.
> We have the HMC IP's.
>
> I think there is a basic step we are missing. Reading manuals and such,
> but
> still can't seem to get the Operations Console going.
>
> The manual states to use the 'first port' HEA or C1, but no such label
> exists on the box.
> We have: HMC1, HMC2, S1, S2, T1-T4.
>
> Not sure I even formulated an intellgent question, but if anyone can
point
> me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.
>
> Thanks!!
> --

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