RE: Create/Last Used Program Dates -- MIDRANGE-L

This only plus I see coming out of this inquiry is that I may be able to use
it as leverage for a bigger (newer) piece of hardware. I didn't know until
I got in this morning that even security auditing (QAUDJRN) wasn't active on
this system. My best WAG is that journaling wasn't set up because we were
short on disk space (8 gig mirrored pair). Even after adding a 17 gig
mirrored pair, I doubt there is sufficient disk space for all of the stuff I
would *like* to journal.

As I said, I can't go into the reasons for the question, which was passed to
me. I do remember one of the people on the conference call saying "Doesn't
sound like a good system." I started to go off on him, but my boss
squelched that.

Jerry C. Adams
IBM i Programmer/Analyst
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harman, Roger
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 10:47 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Create/Last Used Program Dates

Jerry,

I use DSPOBJD regularly to find new programs. It's a holdover from before
we were journaling these things but it still works fine for what I need. I
check create date and restore date to check on a weekly basis. Never had a
problem with wonky create dates.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry C. Adams
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 8:29 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Create/Last Used Program Dates

No CMS here. But I wondered if a CMS could/would retain the original
creation date. I haven't looked at APIs, but I couldn't find a CHG command
that would do that, though the RTVOBJD command can retrieve the creation
date.

Jerry C. Adams
IBM i Programmer/Analyst
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles Wilt
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 10:04 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Create/Last Used Program Dates

A decent change management system should have that info...assuming you
don't have it set up to purge the logs.

Charles

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Jerry C. Adams <midrange@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Did some more searches and still couldn't find the answer to my first
question. I thought, perhaps, that when a program was re-compiled, that

the

creation date *might* be unchanged; i.e., retaining it from the object it
was replacing.

But I tested that (lame) theory by re-compiling a program. Its creation
date is now today. So I guess there's no way to tell when a program was
originally created absent a journal entry, right?

Jerry C. Adams
IBM i Programmer/Analyst
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fruit salad.
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry C. Adams
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 7:26 AM
To: Midrange-L
Subject: Create/Last Used Program Dates

I have a program that, using DSPOBJD, shows a creation date of 9 May 2006.
I know there's been a lot of discussion about creation dates and,
especially, last used dates here. I tried searching the archives and the
Info Center but could not find what I need.

Is the created date the actual date that the object was created? It,

also,

shows a last used date of 9 December 2011 (today). I ran this at 0630,

when

I first got here, and I'm the first one in the building. In fact every
program I checked (even unused or rarely used ones) shows the same last

used

date. The library was backed up (via a WRKJOBSCDE entry) early this
morning. It seems that saving the library also changes the last used

date;

is that correct?

Jerry C. Adams

IBM i Programmer/Analyst

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