RE: renamed to: Get users to stop saying AS/400 -- MIDRANGE-L

Thank you ... so why not get together and finish it off with all the
points presented in "C-exec" style or basic user style to "address the
specific request of features and functions at each release". Then it
could educate them and build a strong foundation of understanding for
the future of our business.

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:21 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: renamed to: Get users to stop saying AS/400

Bill,

I built these pictures a couple of years ago, and they may help with
some
history.

http://angustheitchap.com/familytree.jpg
http://angustheitchap.com/familytreeOS.jpg
http://angustheitchap.com/familytreedates.jpg

Hope that helps a little. They don't address the specific request of
features and functions at each release, however.
Trevor

On 9/29/11 6:19 PM, "Bill Hopkins" <bhopkins@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Joe and Others ....Thank you for being truly knowledgeable on this

topic

and knowing how to present this to your customers or do we say clients
now even though they are our co-workers! :-) Wow... which was the right
word?

Teaching this to others is key but if they researched and saw this

whole

topic .... well what would you think if you were the C-exec...

I wish it was erased and replace with a link to provide the history

with

not only the name changes, why they change, and brief examples of the
new "what it can do now wows".

Just to put an end to this cause someone smarter than me could have

done

it in the time this topic has gone on. I already pick out the best

parts

for my own knowledge.

PS IBM I on Power, System I, I5, iSeries, AS/400, S/38, S/36, RS6000
using RPGII and writing pretend sub-files, etc. blah blah blah....

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Pluta
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 5:36 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: renamed to: Get users to stop saying AS/400

I don't know if I can get our signon screen changed, but I'll give it a
try.

But I did do something along those same lines. We now have an internal
portal with several EGL applications that I've written. The C-level
executives like them very much, but I wanted to make sure they remember
what system they're using. They log on to these apps using their green
screen user IDs, so I have a big text box on the landing page that

tells

them they need to enter their IBM i user ID and password.

Then, just to make sure they know what is running this, if they cursor
over the instruction box, it switches from a nice Arial font to
monospaced green on a black background. So they use the new
applications but they are reminded that it's not some Microsoft package
doing this; it's the IBM i.

And that's what needs to be sold: the capabilities of the platform,
regardless of the name.

Joe

Your comment about users seeing MacBook Pro or Windows 7 constantly

brings

up an idea I never thought of.

How about everyone changing their companies Sign On screen (you can

change

the sign on screen)
And put:
Welcome to IBM i
Or
Welcome to IBM i running on Power System
Or
Some other term everyone can agree on
Some color everyone can agree on
Location everyone can agree on
Just make it consistent for EVERYONE

Users will see it every day or multiple times a day.
They will eventually start calling it by something other than AS00

John

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Loyd Goodbar
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:37 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Classes for IBMi/iSeries?

+1 to this. I don't call my MacBook Pro a PowerBook because right

under

+the
screen, it says "MacBook Pro". The name is clearly visible to me.

Every time

I turn on my work computer, I see Windows 7, not XP or 2000 or a

black

DOS

screen. Now, if my only interaction running IBM i applications is via

5250

or the web, there is little or no indication whether I'm running on

AS/400, iSeries, or Power. It's all about the visibility. The users

call it

"AS/400" becuase they've used the same software packages for 18+

years

with

no visible indication of the platform change from AS/400 to iSeries

System i to Power. And in the end, isn't that how it should be?

Loyd

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Charles

Wilt<charles.wilt@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong...

But my understanding, and I've never used a S/36 or S/38), is that
from a green screen user's perspective, there's obvious differences
between S/36, S/38 and AS/400....

Now compare that to the difference's between AS/400, iSeries, System
i, POWER running IBM i...

It's no wonder the users still call it AS/400!

Charles

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Trevor Perry<trevor@xxxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

Jerry,

It was not quite clear.

Did you call the AS/400 a S/36, because it could run S/36

applications?

Did you call the AS/400 a S/38, because it could run S/38

applications?

If the answer is yes, then calling IBM i an AS/400 is the same

thing.

If no, then...
Do you call IBM i an AS/400 because it can run AS/400 applications?

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