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My suggestions have been scoffed at and ignored time and time again. I'm
done.

Paul Nelson
Office 512-392-2577
Cell 708-670-6978
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:44 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: past COMMON session presentations

Since you did not answer the question, I will ask it again: What benefit
would you like to be added to the list?

You did comment about some individual benefits, which shows those are not
important to you. I feel that means you think your subscription is only
worth your vote - which is really very little value on its own, unless
your vote is going to enhance your benefits or change the organization for
the better. I expect you don't think either has happened, so on that we
may have to disagree.

And, of course, your recommendations are always welcome - I am sure the
board and staff are reading them. I would counter that the current
conference attendance is more related to the economy and overall user
group participation on the planet, rather than the 'fancy venues' and the
volunteer structure. Although, I am not so sure I have attended a 'fancy
venue' COMMON conference in some time - then again, fancy for a
Texinoisian may be somewhat lower than my personal expectations :-). As
for ramping the volunteer structure, do you have suggestions about how to
fill the current vacancies before we even can imagine to ramp?


On 7/28/11 5:41 PM, "Paul Nelson" <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This page is rather dated. When was the last time you guys updated it?
The career center is empty.
The April edition of the magazine was mostly a marketing piece for the
spring conference.
What does certification really buy somebody in this day and age? (Sorry,
Larry & Jim)
A voice to IBM? How can I submit a requirement to IBM via this web site?
Manta discounts? Really? (Sorry, Bill)

If you want to get attendees back in larger numbers, trying cutting the
registration fees back to a 3 digit number, cut out the fluff related to
needing fancy venues, and ramp the volunteer structure back up to where it
needs to be. The conference is no longer worth $5,000 to me.

I love you like a brother, man, but I've gotten over COMMON.

Paul Nelson
Office 512-392-2577
Cell 708-670-6978
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 4:12 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: past COMMON session presentations

Struggling with google ("benefits of COMMON membership"), or navigating
your own organizations web site??

http://www.common.org/index.php/membership/benefits.html

Your turn. Name one you would like to see added to the listŠ



On 7/28/11 1:48 PM, "Paul Nelson" <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

<<There are so many other member benefits you get from your membership,>>

OK, I'm game. Name one.

Paul Nelson
Office 512-392-2577
Cell 708-670-6978
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 12:37 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: past COMMON session presentations

You won't attend the conference, won't pay the conference fees, yet you
still want the benefits of the conference? There are so many other member
benefits you get from your membership, and you want to add conference
handouts? Hmmm..

Sure, paying your dues is great, but not being involved and still wanting
to vote is nice, but isn't that like living in another country and
wanting
to vote in the place you left?? Just asking...

On 7/28/11 1:15 PM, "Paul Nelson" <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I've always disagreed with this rule. If I pay my dues, I should be able
to
retrieve a handout.

Then again, there were lots of things which seemed silly to me. I guess
that's why I no longer attend the conferences. I only pay the dues to
reserve my ability to vote.


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