Re: Backup using i2s3? or other svc?

No problem.

I will be looking at Power 7 HW soon. Currently with our Power 5 HW we have
2 tape drives (LTO2) so we can backup and then make copies for offsite.

I'm seriously thinking of 1) getting a single LTO4 tape library, 2) extra
disk to serve as a VTL, 3) do our backups to the VTL, and 4) copy the VTL
backup to tapes for both onsite and offsite copies as needed.

Both IBM BPs I've started preliminary talks with say they have a Vault/400
type service for DR. Don't know any details yet, but your post with the
onsite VTL, replication offsite, Crossroads SPHiNX, etc caught my eye.

Thanks.


On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

Sorry: Yes: VTL = Virtual Tape Library

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 4/19/2011 2:00 PM, Jeff Crosby wrote:

VTL = Virtual Tape Library?



On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Jim Oberholtzer<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx
wrote:

The easy way to do this is to use a VTL locally, that also has the
replication built in. Put the secondary VTL in your favorite DR
center. I use Crossroads SPHiNX for these type of set ups. BRMS

backs

up the SPHiNX, and the SPHiNX automatically replicates to the remote
site. Network traffic is manageable in that environment. The remote
cuts the archive tapes etc as needed. From the restore/back up
perspective 100% IBM native commands. SPHiNX also handles

Window/Unix

as well.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 4/19/2011 12:37 PM,rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

> We looked at something like this. Vendors like Vault/400 and

whatnot.

We

> were hoping to bypass manual tape intervention and directly store

the

data

> at Iron Mountain or elsewhere. There were several hurdles:
> - Concerns about network traffic.
> - Having to use vendor supplied commands to save/restore versus

IBM

> supplied ones.
> - Cost
>
> Switching to BRMS really reduced the amount of time our operator

was

> spending in the morning tape routine.
>
> Vendor supplied stuff like this scares me to death. Having to

deal with

> that really early on in a new release of OS does not appeal to

me. The

> last thing in the world I want is some vendor who brags that they

still

> support V2R3 but wants you to let them know if their stuff works

on the

> latest os (since they don't have a machine new enough to run

something

> even 2 releases back).
>
> Rob Berendt
> -- Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN

46738

> Ship to: Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755
> http://www.dekko.com From: Ron Adams<rondadams@xxxxxxxxx> To:
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Date:

> 04/19/2011 11:32 AM Subject: Backup using i2s3? or other svc?

Sent by:

> midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Is anybody using this? I'm

curious

> about speed and cost? Is it cost effective, are there other

services

> that are comparable? I'm current sending save files to one our

local

> Windows servers, but the data stays in house. I would like to

look at

> the option of sending off-site to something like this, but, like
> everything these days, it needs to be cost effective. Thanks, Ron

On

> Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Rich Loeber<rich@xxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

>> > Aaron,
>> >
>> > <VENDOR RESPONSE>
>> >
>> > You might want to look at our new i2S3 software that

handles

> save/restore

>> > directly with Amazon S3. Here's a link to more

information:

>> >
>> > [1]http://www.kisco.com/i2s3/
>> >
>> > Rich Loeber - @richloeber
>> > Kisco Information Systems
>> > [2]http://www.kisco.com
>> >
>> >
>> >

>

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> >
>> > Aaron Bartell wrote:
>> >
>> > What are others doing in the arena of backing up data

to digital

> mediums?

>> > I
>> > am just not a tape guy because that means I have to

remember to

switch

>> > something out. Right now I have a small Java app that

I run and it

> FTP's

>> > source from the IBM i to my Linux desktop which

subsequently is

backed

> up

>> > by
>> > JungleDisk to Amazon's S3 service. What I would like

to do is take

my

> PC

>> > out of the mix and backup more than just source (though

I am mostly

> only

>> > interested in source as both of my machines are used

for

development).

>> >

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