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Does somebody really use or evaluate RTC for Power Systems? We are currently evaluating it and find the IBM i support of it very awkward at best. As someone said "RTC for Power Systems is a PC development style imposed on RPG development." And I think that statement hit the nail on the head. Which doesn't mean that RPG development can't be done with it.

I would be glad to exchange experiences and/or ideas with anyone on this topic. mihael.schmidt at rossmann.de

Mihael

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vern Hamberg
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 6:12 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Change Management Software Recommendation for i developers

Hi Susanne

It was a pleasure seeing you in Rochester. I hope all is keeping on
being well with you. I hope I can answer your question adequately. If
not, come on back with more questions.

There are applications that manage a lot of the development process.
They include Aldon, SoftLanding's TurnOver, MKS' Implementer, and Arcad.
There is also IBM's Rational Team Concert, which intrigues me greatly.

I do not recommend SoftLanding anymore at all - they were bought by
Unicom, I think. We had an arrangement with them from before the
acquisition, and they refused to honor it afterwards. There is a general
feeling that it is a cash cow now, that things are not being done much
to improve it. Many employees left, some are with ArCad, some with other
vendors.

MKS has a good product, I believe - David Gibbs, who runs the MIDRANGE-L
mailing list, is one of the main developers. He does good work. I've not
seen it in action, however.

I do like what I've heard about ArCad. Again, I've not seen it working.
Their developers have been quite responsive to bugs reported in a free
item they have, so that says something.

I'm quite interested in Rational Team Concert - it is a product that,
according to IBM, can manage change in iSeries development and Java and
VB, etc., development. I don't think any of the others have truly
managed this. I've played with it some, it seems impressive. It is built
on the Jazz platform, an open-source thing like Eclipse is for
development environments. The Jazz platform is also the base for a
requirements gathering app, as well as a quality management app, all
from IBM Rational. The combination gives a company a total package that
works pretty seamlessly all long the way. As a business partner with
IBM, we are able to get these products for no cost when we subscribe to
the Software Access Catalog, so that makes them attractive. I just need
to convince my boss, and that is an interesting exercise. As you can
imagine, anything in this area must be driven top-down, or it is doomed
to failure.

There are some other products that I don't know of - mostly coming out
of Europe, I believe.

I think I would recommend looking at Arcad
(http://www.arcadsoftware.com/), MKS
(http://www.mks.com/solutions/discipline/ibmi), and IBM's Rational Team
Concert (http://www-01.ibm.com/software/rational/products/rtc/).

Regards
Vern

On 3/11/2011 10:39 AM, Susanne wrote:
What would you recommend for software package on the i that will track
changes you made to a program all the way down to a> or< level?



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