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Brian,

There is a lot to be said for DDL described tables against DDS-PF
definitions, mainly in the area of data validation and performance (no more
MCH1202 :- ) ).

Check out this IBM paper:

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/resources/systems_i_software_db2_pdf_Performance_DDS_SQL.pdf

HTH,


Luis Rodriguez
IBM Certified Systems Expert — eServer i5 iSeries
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On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Brian Piotrowski <
bpiotrowski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks for everyone's input. I guess the question now becomes do we just
abandon the SQL table creation in favour of PF-style definitions or not. As
it stands right now, I would guess 90% of our tables are still in the
PF-style design. Converting the remaining 10% might be easier in the long
run.

Anyhow, it's food for thought for us. We have a plethora of things to do
even before we consider this endeavour (such as converting all of our 8i/4i
dates/times to a proper timestamp), but it's good to know for the future.

/b;

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles Wilt
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:04 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: PF Compiled Files with Dictionaries vs. SQL-Created Tables

You can continue to use a "dictionary" file even with SQL created tables...

Simply use the
create table MYNEWTBL as
(SELECT fld1, fld2 from DATADICT)
with no data
syntax.

optionally adding "copy options" such as
INCLUDING IDENTITY COLUMN ATTRIBUTES
INCLUDING COLUMN DEFAULTS
ect...

There's been articles done about this, google
SQL "Field reference files"

HTH,
Charles


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Brian Piotrowski
<bpiotrowski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi All,

For years (prior to my arrival), the programs written around here were
all based on physical file definitions. However, these definitions were
never really consistent - a field of one type may not be the same type and
length in another file. We then began moving to creating tables with SQL
statements, keeping in mind the importance of creating fields that were the
same type and length regardless of the table in which they were used.
However, this was cumbersome because we always had to keep a running list
of field definitions along with their sizes and types.

We're now looking to move back to physical file definitions with a twist
- all definitions will be contained in a single dictionary file that lists
all of the fields, their types and their lengths. Even though we will have
to do a lot of data table conversion, I am hoping this will allow us to
centralize the definitions and not have to worry that a field in one table
may not be the same in another.

Has anyone had any experience similar to our current conundrum and if so,
did you solve it using a similar method? If not, what worked best for you?

Thanks!

/b;

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