Re: Can't IPL because disk drives are full

Being that I have been accused at times of being some weird hardware dude, is there ANY way to add any disks to the system even temporarily? If you can get into DST then you can add disks. If you can add disks (even a couple) then you'll have space. Space IS the final frontier (I heard that somewhere.) If you have LPARs and can move some stuff temporarily or even shut down a partition and pull drives so you can use the disk card and can space. If you have extra slots that's the easiest by a ton. Thinking (literally) outside the box we've added an 'external' disk cage to all of the Franken-cousins. Pictures here: http://www.frankeni.com/gallery-frankie.html . They are connected to extra ports on internal RAID cards. NOTE: THESE ARE NOT SUPPORTED IN THIS WAY!!! However if it gets you up, you make space and then remove them, nobody will care. (Except you because your problem is solved!)

- DrFranken

On 6/12/2010 2:40 AM, Albert York wrote:

Thanks, but I can never get to the screen which allows me to clear the
job logs and output queues. As soon as I exit DST and start the IPL it
crashes.

Albert

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 4:57 PM, CRPence<CRPbottle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 11-Jun-2010 17:08, Albert York wrote:

I have a system at V5R4 which won't IPL because the disk drives
are full. I can do a manual IPL and can get to DST (which shows *
for disk usage) but if I try to continue with the IPL it tries to
do a dump and dies.

Is there a way to clean out the jobs logs and output queues from
DST? Or do a RCLSTG from the panel?

Once I get the system up I can do some cleanup so it will IPL
normally.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Perform a Manual IPL and two "change system" options should be
presented; IIRC, if the signon screen is reached for OS IPL phase,
then just after signon. Choose both by Y=change [or whatever the
input requirements, to effect "Yes I want to change"], and one of
those two options should offer the options for both "Clear all job
queues" and "clear all spool files". Choose to do both /clear/
options, cross your fingers, then continue the IPL.

If those options are highly negative and best would be avoided if
at all possible, then there are also some /tricks/ that can be
effected under the other /change/ option if those menus can be
reached; they should, if the other noted options are available on a
manual IPL.

There is also an option to hard damage the database cross
reference file dataspace(s) [QADBIFLD for example, which is
typically a very large file on most systems], which will effect the
deletion of the data, its member, and its file... with all the very
negative side-effects. Note: hard /damage/ does not apply to object
type x'19', thus do *not* ever damage the *FILE object itself, and
the IPL review of the dbxref files is on the dataspaces [and IIRC
the members].

Regards, Chuck
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