Re: OCL Documentation

[Jeff Crosby <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I think what keeps me in IT is the business, not IT in and of itself.  I
have never been the type that gets excited about every new thing in IT that
comes along.  If I see a use for it in OUR company, then I can get excited.

To create something in IT just for the sake of saying "yea, I can do that"
doesn't appeal.  But the most mundane thing (from an IT perspective) can
really get me going if it solves an issue for someone in the company or the
company in general.  To use RDi simply because it's 'modern' or
'cool-looking'?  No.  To use it because I can produce better code, and
faster?  Yes.  But even then, it's because I can solve things for others
more quickly.

Does that resonate with anyone?


On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Paul Nelson <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> And pretty soon, that'll be gone, too.   :-))
>
> I'm at the point where I'm thinking about getting out of IT altogether.
>
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> Oh, I still have my debugging templates.  About the only thing they're good
> for is as a quick reference for the Output edit codes (after 35 years I
> still can't recall any from memory except 'J').
>
> Jerry C. Adams
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> Heh. I just uncovered a folder containing RPG II debugging templates.
>
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> Ironic, but I tossed all of my /36 manuals about a month before I applied
> for my current job.  Ironic because we live in the 36 environment here.
>  The
> only thing I still have (must have overlooked it when I was cleaning up) is
> the Procedures and Commands summary.  I could swear (and often do) that I
> had a link to an OCL manual.  But the closest I can come right now is a
> S/32
> manual at www.bitsavers.org.  It doesn't even cover ?R? (that I could
> find).
> Maybe the /32 didn't have prompting.
>
> The worst case of substitution and parameter passing I ever saw was an IBM
> package on the /34.  Proc-A  might have // INCLUDE PROCB ?1?,?2?,?3? and
> Proc-B might then have // INCLUDE PROCC ?2?,?1?,?4R? so that by the time
> you
> got to PROCC what was parameter 2 is parameter 1 to that procedure, etc.
> Really ugly and a pain in the arse to debug.
>
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> It retrieves it from the screen IF it wasn't passed in.  For example, if
> your procedure name is DUDE then you could type in
> DUDE A,B,D,E
> ?1? = A, ?2?=B and so on.
>
>
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> From:   "Mark Murphy/STAR BASE Consulting Inc." <mmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To:     midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date:   05/18/2010 03:44 PM
> Subject:        OCL Documentation
> Sent by:        midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>
>
> Does anyone know of any on-line OCL documentation?  I can deduce some of
> it, but some things are totally foreign.
>
> For example I have a line that goes like this:
>
> // IF ?4R?/Y IF ?7R?/Y GOTO TMCD
>
> I believe that first ?4R? is retrieving input from the screen, and if it
> is a Y then it does the second IF.  No prompts or anything, it just waits
> for more input from the screen? or uses the previous input?  What are the
> 4 and 7 for?  Are these just variable placeholders?  ?7? is not set
> directly in the procedure, other than the R there.  If ?7? is a Y it
> should go to the label, but what would cause that?  Just user input
> without any prompt?
>
> Mark Murphy
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