Re: IBM i hosting "in the cloud"

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but why is this beneficial to IBM? I don't think
people are going to buy new Power systems to run open source software,
especially when that open source software is probably already running on
some other (read cheaper) platform. It may very well be beneficial to IBM
users, but I'm not sure of the value to IBM. Thoughts?

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Schmidt, Mihael <Mihael.Schmidt@xxxxxxxxxxx

wrote:

... and especially when it comes to open source projects (which are a hobby
of mine) I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars (euros) for a box. This
is where IBM must step in and offer at least a platform/host on which I can
develop some open source software. I don't know why IBM does not recognize
that this would be very beneficial to them.

My 0.02 €

Mihael

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DeLong, Eric
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:50 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: IBM i hosting "in the cloud"

Which is why IBM need to do this... Building a development community
(Rational Café's, DeveloperWorks, etc) is great, but if the little guys
can't afford to buy/lease a box to work on, then it means nothing...

I'd like to participate in some open source projects, but I cannot because
I do not have a host to develop on. I can't use my employer's hardware to
host personal development projects... The timeshare services do not offer
current OS, tooling, etc. How would a timeshare pay licensing for WDS
(SEU/SDA/RLU seat charge)? IBM is the only supplier that could pull this
off.

-Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:18 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: IBM i hosting "in the cloud"

The problem with putting up such a cloud is not the cost of acquisition
of the hardware, rather the software. I have looked into the
requirements for putting up a modest size cloud solution to rent out in
less than year long increments. Hardware, doable, but until IBM i, and
AIX and more importantly the appropriate Licensed Program Products can
be leased from IBM on a short term basis, the cost recovery model falls
apart quickly.

Having spoken to some folks at IBM about the situation I am not holding
my breath that a licensing model that makes this type of service viable
is imminent in any way.

Jim Oberholtzer
CEO/Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects, LLC


On 5/12/2010 8:57 AM, elehti@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Aaron,
Sounds like a business opportunity to offer.
Who of us will become the premier IBM I hosting provider offering that
solution?
EricL

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