Re: COMMON conf room rates....

I humbly disagree. This type of discussion is what non-technical mailing
lists are for. The Delete key is for technical discussions that are not of
interest to the reader. I am having a difficult time finding any technical
aspects to this thread. This is, after all, the Midrange Systems Technical
Discussion list (though I will admit COMMON does have technical aspects
associated with it).

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:01 AM, <Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

THAT"S WHAT THE DELETE KEY IS FOR!!!!

(Caps intentional!)
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Thank you,
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midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 11/16/2009 04:24:37 PM:

I don't know about anyone else, but I for one have heard enough about
this topic. I've had my email clogged up throughout the day with little

more than whining and complaining.

Enough already.


Warmest Regards,

Richard Reeve




________________________________
From: Don <dr2@xxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 4:53:18 PM
Subject: RE: COMMON conf room rates....

Trevor,

The argument is conceptually same. Quit trying to use stupid stalling

and

smoke screen tactics...that stuff got old in kindergarten...

The fact remains, and has for several years, the VENU COSTS TO THE

ATTENDEE

are, as stated by Ron, OUTRAGEOUS. This has been brought up at BOM

NUMEROUS

times by NUMEROUS people...and it just gets ignored...so, Trevor, ignore

us

and we'll probably ignore you...it's that simple...and I think Ron made

a

great case for it.

Tevor, I'm not hearing solutions from you, I'm just hearing arguments

for

keeping the status quo in a sinking ship. Is that what happens when you

get

on the board??

DR2

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:31 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: COMMON conf room rates....

Ron,

I appreciate your perspective, but the current debate is about the cost,

not

the rising costs. I was making a case that the perception that

conference

has now "BECOME" expensive is a misnomer. The complaint/argument is

~always~

that it is expensive - a complaint made even when it was in Reno and
relatively cheaper.

Trevor

P.S. My thoughts are still unaffiliated with organization. Or even with

an

organization..




On 11/16/09 11:51 AM, "Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
<Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

For once I have to disagree with Trevor.

We may see this same argument before every conference, but that's

because

the conference locations are very expensive.

The conference itself has always been and remains a good value, but

the

choice of locations makes it very expensive for those of us who don't

live

in those expensive cities.

If you live in New York, Chicago, LA, then you don't think the room

rates

and other expenses are out of line. But for those of us who live in

the

less expensive parts of the country, the $200+ per night room rate is
ridiculous, not to mention the cost of meals in those locations!

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Thank you,
Ronald L. Zimmerman
Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 11/16/2009 10:17:37 AM:

Actually Paul, we are not talking about how expensive the conference

has

"become". This is the same conversation for every single past

conference

since midrange-L has been in existence.

It is simply the same old tired argument that gets beat around for

the

sake

of showcasing the whining of a few old tired arguers.


P.S. These thoughts are my own personal thoughts and reflect no
organization.


On 11/16/09 10:59 AM, "Paul E. Fenstermacher" <paulf@xxxxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

As long as we're talking about how expensive the conference has

become

how

about we discuss the feasibility of moving COMMON, the corporation,

out of

Chicago. Why is it there? Why can't the offices be moved to a less

expensive

area of the country? How about Rochester, MN.? Kansas City? There

must be

hundreds of locations where this struggling organization could be

relocated.

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