Re: IPL hangs at C900 2967, PTF SI30387 on a V5R4 system

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 15:25, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Next time you're three years behind on PTF's you might consider my
suggestion of:

Please, don't say "you". My machines are all current!

- Doing DSPPTF OUTPUT(*PRINT). ÂRerun to an outfile also.
- Upgrading them to a recent 'resave' of V5R4M5.
- Applying the latest cumes and groups and etc.

No chance in hell. It's far to expensive for a customer to do that -
that's also the reason why most of them are badly behind on PTFs.
Getting one of our typical customer machines patched takes roughly 4
hours, if they're recent. 8 or more if they're not.Most of them can't
justify the expense in keeping their system current.

Problem is that most OS service functions perform _extremely_ poorly
on entry-level hardware (2 or 4 arms configs, 1-4GB RAM).

Second reason (other than to avoid ptf hang) is that you will now have
them on 545 which will make it easier for them to upgrade to Power 6
hardware.

At the time they decide to get a new machine, we will probably be on
Power 8. They just bought one three years ago!

No, it doesn't make sense. I can't really argue the customers case,
because i think what they're is very well thought out, but these are
the facts.

And i can't really see how your procedure would prevent issues with
what is very clearly a bug in an IBM PTF.