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RE: Source Code management - Migrating packages


Never used MKS for that
What I do do (do do ?) is use the RSE extensions in WEBSPHERE for
comparing the 2 sources together side by side - VERY NICE!!!!
I've found out through WAY TOO many years of retrofitting one version to
another that not everything is required to be merged from one version to
another
Tedious - yes
Mind-numbing - sometimes
more efficient - in my opinion - definitely. Been burnt TOO MANY times with
doing a straight merge



Alan Shore
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midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 05/27/2009 02:22:26 PM:


Does MKS do a decent job of merging changes from two (or more)
developers?

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bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alan Shore
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:57 PM
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Subject: Re: Source Code management - Migrating packages


We also use MKS

One of the nice things it does for you is warn you that someone else
has already checked a source out. You then have the option of taking
a copy of the production version or the one that has already been
checked out (Hint - use the production version.) It will also halt
you when you attempt to promote the changed version and inform you
of the concurrent development of that source.

Our cycle is that we check out the source (see above), change it in
development (with unit testing). Promote into QA for testing by the
QA group. Then promote it into PRODUCTION.
You also have the option of rejecting from QA into development.
One option I wish was available. When a reject from QA back to
development is required (project cancelled etc) would be to have the
option of refreshing QA with the version in production, instead of
manually having to do this



Alan Shore
Programmer/Analyst, Distribution
E:AShore@xxxxxxxxxxx
P:(631) 200-5019
C:(631) 880-8640
"If you're going through Hell, keep going" - Winston Churchill

midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 05/27/2009 01:31:05 PM:

Seeing as how David works for MKS, we'll mention them first. :)

Others include Aldon and Softlanding (now own by Unicom). Those are
the major players AFAIK.

I've used Aldon for a number of years, it's decent, but sometime a bit
behind the times IMHO.

Softlanding used to have a pretty good rep from what I saw, but that's
changed some since they got bought out.

If I was looking today, I'd take a hard look at MKS. Mainly because
of David and these lists.

HTH,
Charles

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:12 PM, <fbocch2595@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi, my company has never used source code management software
and/or a change management system but wants to do so this year.?

How many vendors are there in this space...on the AS400 and if
anyone wants to share?pro's and con's that'd b/appreciated...or things
to watch out for.???

Thanks, Frank


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From: McGovern, Sean <Sean.McGovern@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, 21 May 2009 9:27 am
Subject: RE: Source Code management - Migrating packages



Rob,

Can you expand on the difficulties you have encountered when
promoting programs that use adopted authority ?

We are aiming to 'upgrade' our current systems (where all users have
*ALLOBJ - seriously), to use a program adoption security model.

Thanks.
Sean


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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: 20 May 2009 21:52
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Source Code management - Migrating packages

I use the CM software very minimally.  I'm more of an administrator.
In

fact, running one program a week through CM would be busy for me.  I
have a few people who can give you more of a reference.

Don't skimp on training.

From the 10,000' level it seems there are a substantial number of
work
arounds going on.  Like difficulties promoting a program with
adopted authority and that stuff.

Rob Berendt
--
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Dept 01.073
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





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Date:
05/20/2009 04:18 PM
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Rob;

How was the migration from Turnover to MKS?
How steep is the learning curve?

Duane Christen
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