You can change System Values during a manual IPL, as well as things
like Network settings. I think the value of this thread is that you
shouldn't make major changes without understanding the repercussions. Zvi's
co-worker should have made one change, not every *USRPRF on the system.
For instance, if you are going to change the Signon screen, you
change it for your subsystems (like QINTER) but never change QCTL, same for
routing entries, etc. If you want to change all the user profiles to have a
start-up program, do it for everyone but QSECOFR (I would recommend leaving
all the Q profiles alone). If you want to change a user profile's JOBD,
don't change QSECOFR to have a JOBD that is not an OS default, otherwise
when you restore the system and restore the user profiles, your userid won't
have a jobd until all the libraries are restored. These are things that you
realize over the years, just like everyone should have a backup DST/SST User
profile for when someone disables the SST/DST QSECOFR profile.
Pete
Pete Massiello
iTech Solutions
http://www.itechsol.com
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry Adams
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:38 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Re: CPC1116 Cannot signon even from console - please help
Zvi,
It has been ages (V3 something). The thing I do remember is that we used
DST to change the password for QSecofr.
However, your problem seemed to be related to the QSTRTUP program not being
available at IPL. Is that correct? If yes, changing QSecofr's password
isn't going to gain you anything. I do not see anything in the V5R4 Info
Center about DST that would allow you to change system values so, unless I'm
just missing it.
If the error message allows for an 'I' response, you might try that.
If not, there is (in V5R4, don't know how far back it goes) an option to
change system values during an IPL. Never done this, but if it is possible
do enter this mode when bringing a dead machine up, it would have to be
during a 'M'anual mode IPL. Check out the Info Center for V4R5.
Jerry C. Adams
IBM System i Programmer/Analyst
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Zvi Kave
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 3:44 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Re: CPC1116 Cannot signon even from console - please help
Jery hi,
I entered into DST menu, but I did not find an option
to change user profile. I shall check it again...
Thanks,
Zvi
--- On Mon, 3/9/09, Jerry Adams <Jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Jerry Adams <Jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re: CPC1116 Cannot signon even from console - please help
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 7:11 AM
You will not be able to sign on if the user profile has in its library list
a
library that does not exist. QGPL, on most systems I've seen, is in 90+% of
all user profiles. You might try using another user profile that you
suspect
does not include QGPL in its library list. Usually the user portion.
Alternatively, you might put the system into DST- mode. Been a long time
since
I even booted up my V3 whatever 150, but I think it requires using the
security
key lock. Anyway, from there you can change user profiles or job
descriptions,
I think. Anyway, I had a friend of mine do the same thing, different
library;
even QSECOFR couldn't get in. DST was the method we used (>6 years ago)
to fix the problem. If you don't know the security codes for DST, though,
you may be up the proverbial creek without the proverbial paddle. That
said,
however, most people don't change the security settings for DST/SST;
22222222 / 22222222 allowed us ('nother job, 'nother time) to break into
a used box we had bought when even the reseller didn't know the security
codes and couldn't get them.
Even if the startup procedure is in QGPL, which is usually the case I'll
admit, this would not prevent a sign-on. You would just get an error that
the
program could not be found. Whacking QGPL is not considered a good idea.
Hope
you have a recent backup; we back ours up nightly - not that I ever plan to
whack it, you understand.
Jerry C. Adams
IBM System i Programmer/Analyst
B&W Wholesale
office: 615-995-7024
email: jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of bdietz400@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 8:36 AM
To: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Re: CPC1116 Cannot signon even from console - please help
From the logon screen try using the:
Program/procedure
Menu . . . . . .
Current library .
for program use QCMD
It looks like you deleted you initial program.
Bryan
On Mar 9, 2009 9:19am, Zvi Kave zvi_kave@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
After deleting some files I IPLed the S150 R4V5 machine.
Now I have no TCP/IP, and I can not login from console.
The message when I try to login is:
"CPC1116 Program xxxx in library QGPL not found."
My question is:
1. Can I IPL manually to enter CL command ?
(then I can start TCP/IP or create the missing program)
2. Can I IPL manually to restore the QGPL/xxxx program from
tape to solve this problem?
3. Is there another way to solve this problem?
Regards,
Zvi
midrange.com
