RE: PTF downloads

["Larry Bolhuis" <lbolhuis@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Jerry,

  They call these 'Skip Ship' products and they do occur. However what I 
haven't seen is PTF groups for any of these products. Doesn't mean they 
aren't out there but I can't think of any at this point.

     - Larry
 
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Aren't there some cases in which prior release numbers are valid?  For 
example, if the LLP is either not pushed to the new release or the 
customer doesn't install it when upgrading?  Anyway, thought I had seen 
this before, but can't find an example on my systems now (probably just 
senile).

Thanks.

Jerry C. Adams
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry Draper
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:39 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: PTF downloads

I see this also.  I have a V5R4 system with the following:

SF99530          7016            Installed
SF99173: 530 IBM Business Solutions
SF99272: 530 WebSphere App Server - Express V5.0

All of these pertain to V5R3 so per your note we can remove them from 
the PTF list.

I always wondered about that.

Jerry


Larry Bolhuis wrote:
> Tom,
>
> You can download a CUME as images either with FTP, Download Director, or 

> with the SNDPTFORD command. You cannot do the immediate download of a 
> CUME. Simply too many bits and pieces that way. So you will end up 
putting 
> them into an image catalog to use with PTF menu option 8. This has 
always 
> been this way.
>
> As for the old V5R4 and V5R3 groups in WRKPTFGRP you are correct, simply 

> clean them up with Option 4. If you accidentally do this with a current 
> group it DOES NOT damage your system it simply makes it hard to know 
which 
> group is applied and the next time a group is applied it will add the 
new 
> marker.  Note that in V6R1 those markers do not get replaced (i.e. DB5 
> doesn't replace DB4) rather it adds a new entry so some cleanup will be 
> required after each group application in V6R1 unless you want to use 
this 
> to track PTF group history which is what it was intended for.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
>    - Larry
>
>
>
> Larry Bolhuis                   IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert 
- 
> System i Solutions
> Vice President                  IBM Certified Systems Expert:
> Arbor Solutions, Inc.              System i Technical Design and 
> Implementation V6R1
>   If you can read this, thank a teacher....and since it's in English, 
> thank a soldier who's likely missed a few Thanksgiving's with his 
family.
> I could have sworn that I have downloaded Cumulative PTFs directly to my 

> AS/400 before. With all the individual and Group PTFs I still can, but 
the 
> last couple of times I've done a cume, it has resorted to making me 
> download the images (Download Director or FTP) and mount up a virtual 
CD. 
> I should have all the latest ECS PTFs, including the ones that allow for 

> "large" PTF downloads for V5R4.  Anyone know if this does or used to 
work? 
> Also, if "Old" group PTFs are listed on the WRKPTFGRP screen, is it 
simply 
> a matter of using option 4 to delete them? On one V5R4 system, I see 
some 
> group PTFs for both V5R4 and V5R3.
> ===============================================
> Tom Kreimer
> Network Manager
> Buckhorn Inc, Milford OH