William Safire, nicknamed the "Language Maven," came out with a new book on correct grammar last year in which, among other things, he said that it was now acceptable (correct?) to end a sentence with a preposition. What was he thinking of? I mean, Of what was he thinking (or drinking)? Probably got tired of using the backspace keep to erase/correct his own miscues.

Jerry C. Adams
IBM System i Programmer/Analyst
B&W Wholesale
office: 615-995-7024
email: jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kurt Anderson
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:22 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: COBOL is back!!!

Well I think the appropriate reaction is: Oh snap!

Thanks for the correction. Thought I had a good handle on that stuff.


Kurt Anderson
Application Developer
Highsmith

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry Adams
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:54 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: COBOL is back!!!

Sorry, Kurt, but you are wrong. "You" is the subject. The best way to
analyze sentences, when they are questions is to reformat the question
as a statement (at least, that's the way I used to teach English grammar
30+ years ago). In this case, simply re-word it as "You are calling
whom a toady." Instead of "Whom" you could substitute a proper name
(say, Kurt), if it helps to make more sense. "Whom" (or Kurt) is the
object, not "You".

Jerry C. Adams
IBM System i Programmer/Analyst
B&W Wholesale
office: 615-995-7024
email: jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kurt Anderson
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:36 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: COBOL is back!!!

If you're calling him on his grammar it's my understanding that 'who'
and not 'whom' is appropriate in that sentence. 'Who' is correct
because it is the subject and not the object of the sentence. Unless of
course you were playing on the sentence's typo and felt that the
reaction to the sentence should also include another error.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Kurt Anderson
Application Developer
Highsmith

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terrence Enger
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:15 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: COBOL is back!!!

On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 08:48 -0800, James Lampert wrote:
Mike Cunningham wrote:
Has anyone ever seen an analysis of the lines of RPG code running
toady?

Just exactly who are you calling a toady?

Ahem, do you not mean ...
Just exactly whom are you calling a toady?

In light of Muphry's Law <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaudere's_Law>,
I'm going off now to look for my asbestos underwear.

Cheers,
Terry.


--
James H. H. Lampert
Touchtone Corporation


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