Mike,

I'm working on getting one of these lightweight was servers running now. The http server runs under apache and connects to an application server where you can install your war and wab files. This is all new to me, and apparently IBM. From what I've seen this (http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/i/software/ias/) is the extent of the documentation available. I've tried using Ant to create a war file to install on this application server, but to no avail. I've got an incident open right now which has apparently gone to the developers. I think they call this bleeding edge right?

Josh

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mike Cunningham
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i5 Apache use to have the built in tomcat application server (might actually be there but is an older version of tomcat). I know that the newest version of iSeries access for the web used a built in lightweight WAS server that did not need to have a WAS subsystem job running to support it. Does anyone know if that internal WAS server can be used by any Apache instance or does it only work for iSeries Access? This relates to the question of IIS web serving being "easier" to setup. Setup of IIS and Apache on i5 for serving static pages is about the same. IIS does come ready to run Asp pages. Apache on i5 requires some additional work to get a WAS server installed and attached. If Apache could use the internal WAS server then again the two would be about equal in setup.

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lukas Beeler
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Subject: Re: I am in a Holy War about webserving from a System i

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 3:04 PM, <ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Do those sound like comments from someone that is very serious about
putting forth the effort to get the RIGHT solution set up?

'its just a whole lot easier to use an old PC.'

Sounds like a cop out to me!

I agree, that sounds dangerous. Reliable x86 hardware is not cheap
either. And building a competent solution based upon x86 requires a
lot of knowledge.

It's something that's often overlooked in smaller companies - yes,
running a Java CMS on your System i might require to buy a bigger
machine or expand the existing one, but if you compare the price of
that vs. running the Java CMS on an aging desktop PC, the comparison
is just pointless.

From my POV, the Model 515/520/525 hardware is in the same quality
ballpark as a System x3650/x3550 with RSA, or HP DL360/DL380 with iLO.
These machines are NOT cheap - they're quality and you have to pay
for that quality.

There is still a price difference, but that will vanish in the
personnel cost anyway.

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