Re: Staying current on releases? (was: Are there any Systemi sites on the Internet that offer accounts?)

Naw, only switching from the System i, cause it's

1. "outdated technology, like mainframes became in the 80's"
2. "it doesn't do GUI without spending LOTS of $"
3. "Windows boxes are cheap, we need more power/disk we just call Dell and
it's here the next day"

On Jan 23, 2008 11:36 AM, Ingvaldson, Scott <scott.ingvaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Why can't a computer have similar life span?

Because when your CIO tells you that your iSeries is being replaced by
Windows servers because they can run a query 2 seconds faster on their
new Dell quad core Xeon box you'll regret running old hardware.

When the CIO asks why the iSeries doesn't run PHP or MySQL like Linux
you'll regret being on V4R5.

When a disaster (KOW) strikes and your Windows boxes require 100's of
man-hours to restore and you don't have an IBM support contract for your
"Legacy AS/400" you may all regret those decisions...

Regards,

Scott Ingvaldson
Senior IBM Support Specialist
Fiserv Midwest


-----Original Message-----
From: Al Mac Wheel [mailto:macwheel99@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:22 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Staying current on releases? (was: Are there any Systemi
sites on the Internet that offer accounts?)

There are other places than IBM, that provide support for IBM equipment
and OS.

We use one with faster response time when we have a problem, and lower
pricing.
Our AS/400 is in a rural area ... used to be if we called IBM one day,
we could expect to get the CE 2 days later ... with the competition, we
call late one nite, usually have service before noon next day.

If the company is able to get the job done on the old box, and does not
need any of the latest features, then motivation is to keep the old box
running to infinity. My Honda Civic was bought new in 1984. Why can't a
computer have similar life span?

sooner or later... you'll need to be on a supported release of the OS
8^)

Thanks,
Tommy Holden



Nick_Radich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject
Re: Staying current on releases? (was: Are there any System i sites

on

the Internet that offer accounts?)

That's why we are still at V4R5.

Thanx,

Nick



Nick Radich
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
EPC Molding, Inc.
Direct (320) 679-6683
Toll free (800) 388-2155 ext. 6683
Fax (320) 679-4516
nick_radich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx



Jeff Young <cooljeff913@xxxxxxxxx>

Subject
Re: Staying current on releases? (was: Are there any System i sites

on

the Internet that offer accounts?)

For programmers, the new cool things are indeed a good reason to
upgrade, but for the C level people, if the current system is working
without any problems and the needs of the business do not require
anything beyond what the current system provides, there is no incentive

to them to upgrade just for its own sake.


Jeff Young
Sr. Programmer Analyst
IBM -e(logo) server Certified Systems Exper - iSeries Technical
Solutions
V5R2
IBM Certified Specialist- e(logo) server i5Series Technical Solutions
Designer V5R3 IBM Certified Specialist- e(logo)server i5Series
Technical Solutions Implementer V5R3

----- Original Message ----
From: Pete Massiello <pmassiello-ml@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:57:31 AM
Subject: RE: Staying current on releases? (was: Are there any System i
sites on the Internet that offer accounts?)

Lukas,

I agree that most people are on either V5R3 or V5R4. I know almost

all my customers are on V5R4, and the ones that aren't at V5R4, is due
to unique reasons. For example there are other products they are
running that are preventing them from going to V5R4.

Although, when I do find new customers, many times they are
contacting me to do a release upgrades for them. Just 2 weekends ago,
we upgraded someone from V5R1 to V5R3, and then to V5R4.

For some people, the only reason that they upgrade their OS, is

due

to requirements by a new box which only supports a minimum release.

With

V6R1, that will change. There are so many cool things inside this
release, people are going to want to go to this release.

JMHO
Pete Massiello

-----Original Message-----
From: Lukas Beeler
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Staying current on releases? (was: Are there any System i
sites on the Internet that offer accounts?)

On Jan 22, 2008 2:39 PM, Adam Glauser <adamglauser@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

accounts are on a V5R2 system, but that has worked well enough for
me since I've been using it for writing articles and I don't want to

accidentally use a feature that isn't available to most people. You

can

Are there many people that run something below V5R3? V5R3 is currently
the lowest release supported.

Do you really think that the people running unsupported i5/OS versions
are the majority of System i users?

I know a few customers that are not current on their OS, but that has
usually political reasons. And they're very few.

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