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Yes, but we are in the eastern time zone.....and we even recognize
DST..... :-)

Michael Crump

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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Nelson
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:44 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Locations was tech conf

Baltimore was no more a problem than San Francisco. By the middle of the
week, the panhandlers figured out that I would say no, so they quit
bothering me.

Have you looked at a map? Nashville and Indy are close to the middle of
the
country. :-))

Paul Nelson
Office 512-392-2577
Cell 708-670-6978
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Massiello
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:33 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: Locations was tech conf

Mike,

Some issues with some of those cities.

Baltimore had a major crime problem around the convention center
and
I hope they don't return there.

Atlantic City, how close is the nearest real airport? Is it
Newark
or Philly? That would be like a 100 taxi ride. Is Virginia Beach the
same
thing, I don't know as I am not too familiar with the location.

How come you do not consider Nashville, Indy, Orlando, and Miami
on
the east coast.

Pete



-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Cunningham
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:45 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: is there no IBM Technical Conf this year?

Hey, let's go back to last year's discussion on COMMON and conference
locations (I had raised the point of the east coast being ignored as a
location) and COMMON could dump the large tourist trap conference venues
in
favor of the places who don't get as many and maybe get better pricing
for
rooms. Baltimore, Philly, Atlantic City, Boston, Richmond, Cleveland,
Virginia Beach.

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Nelson
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:31 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: is there no IBM Technical Conf this year?

Since I don't attend COMMON conferences anymore, I have no skin in the
game,
except to say this:

If the folks who select the venues don't like these little rip-offs, and
have no control over the hotel's charging them, all they have to do is
select a different venue that does not behave this way.

Later.

Paul Nelson
Office 512-392-2577
Cell 708-670-6978
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:58 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: is there no IBM Technical Conf this year?

Paul,

Some time back I called the resort. The $10 is a resort fee, payable by
EVERY hotel guest, regardless of the conference or event you are
attending.

This is not something that COMMON has been able to negotiate away, so
you
should probably stop whining at COMMON, and go whine at the resort.
Sure, it
is another way of the resort ripping you off, but it is not COMMON that
is
in charge of that particular resort fee. They ~have! warned you, so you
are
now aware of it.

If you want to take it up with the resort, do so. Or, consider it
another
line item like TAX, and consider it buried.


Trevor



On 1/16/08 11:37 AM, "Paul Nelson" <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Well, it IS my money. The first time COMMON went to the Gaylord in
Nashville, they tried to nick me for that fee when I checked out. I
told
them that I had not been notified in advance, and that I would not pay
it.
I
offered to go back to the room and retrieve the water and newspapers
and
return them.

I told the front desk manager to either remove the charges or he could
explain to the general manager why American Express was going to call
him.
He removed the charges.

If you look at COMMON's registration page now, you will clearly see
the
notification about the resort fee. I guess my point is that if they're
going
to hit you with that insult, why not just bury it in the price of the
room?

Paul Nelson
Office 512-392-2577
Cell 708-670-6978
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


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