Re: econnrefused -- MIDRANGE-L

Keith,

Connection lists (WRKCNNL, DSPCNNL, et al) are for ISDN networking. Is ISDN what you're using? If not, why did you bring them up? You're really confusing the heck out of me by throwing stuff like this into the equasion. Same with the telnet servers... why are you telling me the job names of the telnet servers? You already said you can connect to them from a PC, and therefore they work. So why are we troubleshooting telnet all of a sudden? Then you talk about NetServer. What does NetServer have to do with anything?

Regarding FTP: You can use FTP to send stream files. Frankly, it works a lot better on stream files (IMHO) than it does on record-based files, since that's really what FTP was designed for. In order to get to stream files, you just have to change your name format.

However, from what you tell me, TELNET from one machine to another does not work. I assume therefore that FTP will also not work, since FTP is actually more complicated than TELNET. I get the impression that absolutely no network connectivity works between these two machines. Does that match your knowledge? If that's the case, then it really doesn't matter whether you're using your own socket program, or using TELNET, FTP, SMB, SSH, HTTP, SMTP, NNTP (which, by the way, are all socket programs -- but were written by someone else besides you.)

The point is... it doesn't matter what application you're running over the network -- if the network doesn't work, the application won't work.

And I'm not really in a good position to tell you what your network settings should be, since I have no clue even what type of network you're using, much less what the architecture of that network is.

What type of network is this? (Ethernet, Token Ring, ISDN, dial-up?) Is it just one subnet on one network, or many subnets on many interconnected networks? If it's many, what are all the subnets and/or interconnected networks in between?

I guess I really need a network diagram... at least of the two System i machines and any routers/gateways/switches/bridges in between. Have you done a traceroute? Are you 100% positive that there's no firewall (knowing that should make it much easier to troubleshoot things.)

keith wrote:

hi scott..

here is the latest information i have..

there is no firewall..

the 820 is running r5v2 and the i5 is running r5v4

in the display connections DSPCNNL on the 820 there is the following

QDCCNNLANY *ISDN this ISDN CNNL is IBM supplied

this is missing on the i5
..
in addition on the i5 the command to create a connection CRTCNNL is missing..i dont know if this command simply does not exist in r5v4 or if there is a part of the os missing..

this is a question the system operator found and asked me..

the only response we get from ibm here is that it is an application problem and they are not interested..also they keep saying dont use sockets do it some other way..they sent us a model cl program to ftp files from one system to the other..they dont seem to understand that we are not working with files but with stream files within document folders..

i have believed all along that it is a configuration problem..the programs work perfectly on each of the systems individually and are taken from programs i used in the us that worked perfectly..but again it was basically within the same box up there..an as400 with a pc and pc application attached...

i dont know how this affects the issue but the telnet programs QTVDEVICE and QTVTELNET are active within the subsystem qsyswrk but in navigator i cannot find a TELNET entry..

another thing on the 820 as/400 netserver is not started but it is on the i5 these are under the system/network/servers/tcp/ip

on the i5 in this window dns is listed but it is turned off..dns is not listed in the window for the 820..

it has been many many years since i have done any configuration work so i am not sure what should exist and be active..

thanks

keith