Question for you, Jeff. When I looked at QU2 a number of years ago, I
determined that it was not a product an IT guy would place into the hands of
even a power user. Do you think you could do that today, especially
considering that the metadata step has to be gone through first?

I have clients whose software provider partnered with Business Objects, and
are essentially giving the BO software away, because they get more revenue
from going to the client sites and building the BO stuff than they would if
they charged for the software. These clients have sat through some training
sessions and have built some stuff on their own, but by and large have
abandoned BO because of its difficulty to use. You can probably guess which
package they are using. :-))

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Crosby
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:52 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: IBM Commitment (was: Q/400 to Web Query)


I never said I didn't like QU2! But there are things _about_ it I don't
like, like the handling of Q/400 queries. Initially I didn't like the
metadata idea, but at the present it's growing on me. For example, you can
create "virtual columns" that derive their value from other columns. If QU2
looked only at the actual database and there was no such thing as metadata,
would that be possible? What about when I add columns to the table - how do
I update the metadata to add those new columns without losing virtual
columns? If I add a number of virtual columns to a table and want to add
the same virtual columns to another table that happens to have the same
based on fields, why do I have to enter them from scratch? Why can't I copy
them in some way? Why does a virtual column have to be attached to a
specific table anyway? How about defining it globally somehow? How about
the equivalent of an SQL function to define these virtual columns?

QU2 is so far above and beyond QU1 that I consider it a different product.
When the redbook is over 400 pages of tutorials and only touches some of the
features in the product, that says something. You should see the volume and
size of PDFs available at the IBI site. It has crossed my mind that when I
fully understand this product, I mat never have to write another RPG report

It's still so early in the learning curve I don't want to make judgements
too soon. And I'm not doing my whining here, I'm doing it with IBM PMRs (3
so far, but I asked at least 8 questions on the first PMR) and 1 DCR. The
biggest problem now is finding knowledgeable experts to whom I can ask the

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