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I recognize that individuals in colleges are all about the mighty dollar,
but I also know (for a fact because I talk to profs about it) that they also
try to form their curriculum around the current need for developers.  In
Mankato MN there are a number of iSeries shops that have hired many many RPG
programmers over the years directly from the tech college.  The tech college
continues to teach that class because it fills so many positions in the
local job market (guessing on that last statement).

Aaron Bartell

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ryan
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 1:05 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: giving an iSeries system to each college (was LPAR
-micropartitioning an i5-520)

The PIE program has been around for many years. The latest initiative with
the college in Nebraksa? Kansas? is new. Seems like they're going great
guns. In my experience it wasn't the lack of systems or curriculum or
instructors - it was the lack of students. Colleges are not enthusiastic in
providing classes for a small number of students, especially when they can
use the same classrooms and instructors to teach classes that draw a lot of
students.

On 1/24/07, albartell <albartell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Wow!  I am really impressed with what IBM has put together with this.  
I heard about it at COMMON in Mnpls I believe and was excited about it 
at that time but haven't heard much about it since.  I would be 
curious to know what is included in the license agreement to see what 
restrictions are put in place.  For instance, based on this first 
sentence it doesn't appear that you even need to be a college: "The 
System i Center will give you access at no cost to the latest System i 
technology for teaching and research purposes without the expense of your
own System I"

So could somebody that was curious and committed to learning about the 
System i5 get a LPAR through this program?  What about David Gibbs at 
midrange.com getting an LPAR for his purposes of serving the 
community?  I am guessing they have a process of ruling out "time 
wasters" that wouldn't amount to much other than signing in and not doing
anything else with it.

Has anyone on the lists taken part of this initiative?  What are the 
things you liked and what are the areas that need work?  I remember 
rants on the lists 4 or 5 years ago about the fact that new blood 
wasn't entering the market and it looks like IBM is answering that call!

Aaron Bartell


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