Re: giving an iSeries system to each college (was LPAR - micropartitioning an i5-520) -- MIDRANGE-L

That's pretty generous...congrats to them. I think a lot of colleges
won't teach a class unless they have at least double that number.

On 1/24/07, Mark Allen <scprideandms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The local college my wife teaches "i5" stuff at requries of minimum of 6
students (if its a first level course like Intro to CL) or 4 if its a
continuation (of previous term, in this example CL II)............... or
clsoe to that number, some flex allowed it seems but not much

On 1/24/07, Michael Ryan <michaelrtr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> The PIE program has been around for many years. The latest initiative
> with the college in Nebraksa? Kansas? is new. Seems like they're going
> great guns. In my experience it wasn't the lack of systems or
> curriculum or instructors - it was the lack of students. Colleges are
> not enthusiastic in providing classes for a small number of students,
> especially when they can use the same classrooms and instructors to
> teach classes that draw a lot of students.
>
> On 1/24/07, albartell <albartell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Wow!  I am really impressed with what IBM has put together with this.  I
> > heard about it at COMMON in Mnpls I believe and was excited about it at
> that
> > time but haven't heard much about it since.  I would be curious to know
> what
> > is included in the license agreement to see what restrictions are put in
> > place.  For instance, based on this first sentence it doesn't appear
> that
> > you even need to be a college: "The System i Center will give you access
> at
> > no cost to the latest System i technology for teaching and research
> purposes
> > without the expense of your own System I"
> >
> > So could somebody that was curious and committed to learning about the
> > System i5 get a LPAR through this program?  What about David Gibbs at
> > midrange.com getting an LPAR for his purposes of serving the
> community?  I
> > am guessing they have a process of ruling out "time wasters" that
> wouldn't
> > amount to much other than signing in and not doing anything else with
> it.
> >
> > Has anyone on the lists taken part of this initiative?  What are the
> things
> > you liked and what are the areas that need work?  I remember rants on
> the
> > lists 4 or 5 years ago about the fact that new blood wasn't entering the
> > market and it looks like IBM is answering that call!
> >
> > Aaron Bartell
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark S. Waterbury
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 10:04 AM
> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > Subject: Re: giving an iSeries system to each college (was LPAR -
> > micropartitioning an i5-520)
> >
> > Hi, Aaron:
> >
> > As part of the System i Academic Initiative, IBM has established a "hub"
> > at University of Nebraska in Lincoln, -- a very large model 570 or 595,
> and
> > ANY college or university can join the IBM Academic Initiative (formerly
> > PIE) and gain free access to this hub system -- userIDs and passwords
> etc.
> > are all provided (zero administration), with an IP address to connect to
> > this system via TCP/IP over the Internet.
> >
> > See:
> >
> http://www-304.ibm.com/jct09002c/university/scholars/products/iseries/
> >
> > then click on the link "Access to System i Environment":
> >
> >
> http://www-304.ibm.com/jct09002c/university/scholars/products/iseries/gettin
> > g_started/equipment/hub.html
> >
> > The biggest problem with just "giving an AS/400 to each school" is that
> most
> > colleges don't have anyone on staff  with the expertise to set it up or
> > maintain it, let alone perform routine software tasks such as installing
> > additional LPPs, or ordering and applying PTFs, etc.  So, what usually
> > happens is, an IBM business partner or some other "sponsor"
> > (usually a local IBM iSeries customer) may volunteer to help the college
> to
> > set it up initially, but from then on, it remains fairly static and
> "frozen
> > in time." I know of several colleges who are still running V4R5 because
> no
> > one on campus has the necessary knowledge or the time (or they are
> afraid)
> > to load a new release of the OS, etc.  And, some colleges even have
> older
> > AS/400 systems not capable of running the newest releases.
> >
> > Even worse, very often, local college or university "politics" actually
> > prohibits the faculty from connecting ANY "unauthorized" hardware to the
> > campus network or performing any software maintanance tasks on "servers"
> > -- these tasks MUST be performed only by the college's authorized
> internal
> > IT support staff, who are usually already overworked, so the last thing
> they
> > want is to have to learn all about yet another kind of system to
> maintain.
> > These are NOT Windows or Unix/Linux systems, so their existing skills,
> > knowledge and experience does not help much.
> >
> > Also, believe it or not, many colleges WILL NOT ACCEPT older "donated"
> > hardware -- they only want brand new equipment that is under warranty,
> > supported by the vendor, etc.
> >
> > So, there you have it. Encourage your local colleges and universities to
> > join the IBM System i Academic Initiative -- there is no cost to the
> college
> > to join or participate, and faculty and students gain access to "the big
> > iron."
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Mark S. Waterbury
> >
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