Re: IBM and the vanishing System i -- MIDRANGE-L

If I was in the Chicagoland area, I might just do that.

But being a Michigander, I'll just think about going to the
conference. 5 hour drive, and Chicago is one of my favorite cities. I
could get an Italian beef...be still my beating heart. And a good
Italian beef could do that.

On 1/9/07, pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx <pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

We're working on it. We have a meeting tonight to finalize things. Good
things come to those who wait.....

Besides, we're just a user group, run by volunteers. Wanna help?
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Paul Nelson
Arbor Solutions, Inc.
708-670-6978  Cell
pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx




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The web site says...Details/Registration soon!

Now would be cool...

On 1/9/07, pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx <pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Let it go, guys. OMNI has been planning an SOA session at our February
> tech conference for quite a while. You are all welcome to join us. Our
web
> site is: www.omniuser.org       We're even having 2 different half-day
> labs the day before the conference.
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> Paul Nelson
> Arbor Solutions, Inc.
> 708-670-6978  Cell
> pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
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> Um, I guess I don't see how "opposition to SOA" would have bearing on
this
> omission....  Surely I'm not mistaken that SOA is the basis for most IBM
> middleware currently being produced, and that SOA is clearly the focus
of
> IBM's developer roadmap....  So, why omit an entire server family from
> this paradigm?  Such discrimination just reinforces the "legacy" image
of
> our platform.
>
> IBM can't even be counted upon to mention System i in its development
> redbooks, so why would we expect anything BUT opposition to this
> technology....
>
> I was fortunate to be able to attend an SOA workshop at the IBM TEC in
> Dallas.  IBM has the tooling and the necessary resources to support SOA
> development on System i, but that message never quite gets communicated
> properly.  It concerns me a great deal.....
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> Eric
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
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> Joe,
>
> Since there has been some major opposition to SOA in the System i World
-
> including here on Midrange-L, why would IBM consider it a value
> proposition
> to run on System i?
>
> I hear a large Chicago user group named OMNI has dropped SOA from its
> upcoming conference. If SOA is dropped from System i conferences, no
> wonder
> IBM SOA documents ignore the System i platform.
>
> Trevor
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:40 AM
> Subject: IBM and the vanishing System i
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> > Far be it from me to want to intentionally give Steve any more ammo
for
> > his
> > cannon, but here's a little piece that really pisses me off.  It's an
> IBM
> > Redpaper entitled "Powering SOA with IBM Data Servers".  If you read
the
> > abstract below, you'll see NO mention of the System i or of i5/OS. Nor
> is
> > there anything in the entire 754 page Redpaper, either.
> >
> > It's possible that we're left out because this is all due to cool DB2
V9
> > features, but I guess I don't understand why those features are
> available
> > for z/OS and not for i5/OS.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247259.html
> >
> >
> > Abstract
> > Flexibility in business has become equal in importance with
operational
> > efficiency. Service-oriented architecture (SOA) can help businesses
> > respond
> > more quickly and cost-effectively to the changing market conditions by
> > promoting reuse and interconnection of existing IT assets rather than
> > time-consuming and costly reinvention.
> >
> > SOA has been the top fashionable topic in IT for a few years now. This
> is
> > because there is a consensus of opinions among enterprise architects
> that
> > SOA is the key to making the IT department a catalyst for growth and
> > innovation.
> >
> > This IBM Redbook helps you get started with SOA by showing the
> > implementation of the minimum requirements: The creation of Web
services
> > that allow access to data that is stored in data servers or
applications
>
> > and
> > the realization of interaction services for business to consumer
> > integration. The data servers included in our scenario are DB2 for
z/OS,
>
> > DB2
> > for Linux, UNIX and Windows, Informix Dynamic Server and IMS.
> >
> > This redbook is a roadmap showing how SOA can significantly improve
the
> IT
> > business value.
>
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