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   I did set them up to download unattended, but the client forgot to suspend
   the midnight backup on Thursday night. I managed to get the first 5 before
   that kicked in. Fortunately, CD #7 was only 300 MB or so. I was out of
   there by 5:00.
    
   It had to be the speed of their network. Yesterday, I downloaded all 8
   cd's for V5R3 in 2.5 hours. And no, I was not using IBM's FTP server.
   Arbor's Larry Bolhuis has them staged up on Frankie, and he's in a data
   center with a fast pipe. Yesterday's client moves a lot of engineering
   drawings on their network, so they are fast also.
   Hope Santa was good you you.
   -- 

   Paul Nelson
   Arbor Solutions, Inc.
   708-670-6978  Cell
   pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
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     To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
     From: rob@xxxxxxxxx
     Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
     Date: 12/26/2006 09:13AM
     Subject: RE: Old-timer's disease question

     Yeah, it's slow.  It's a rare "feel free to thump your chest" day when
     you
     get a high percentage of bandwidth used on your LAN card.  Due to remote
     considerations, this isn't going to do it.  Downloading all these ptf's
     from IBM can be really slow.  I use a ftp script to download them on
     Monday morning.  On Tuesday I use /QFileSvr.400 to distribute them to
     all
     lpars.  Then I use
     INSPTF LICPGM((*ALL)) DEV(OPTVRT01) INSTYP(*DLYALL)
     to load them and set them to apply that weekend during the IPL.  I would
     have at least downloaded them in advance, in your case.  Yes, you can
     download the cume for V5R4 even if you are running V5R3 or earlier.
     Suggest doing the "get them all, applied or not" and the "for
     distribution
     to remote systems", or whatever they're called.
     Back in the early days of the 400 I used to download the cume cover
     letter
     using SNDPTFORD right before bringing the system down into restricted
     state.  Read it for the hipers that were not on it.  Download them all
     using SNDPTFORD.  Load them using LODPTF and APYPTF, repeat for coreq's
     that somehow didn't come down.  Now, try and document those steps and
     have
     one of your "B" players try to follow them.  Ended up in a lot of pages
     (before cell phones for commoners like me) and calls from me using a pay
     phone in a bar.

     Rob Berendt
     --
     Group Dekko Services, LLC
     Dept 01.073
     PO Box 2000
     Dock 108
     6928N 400E
     Kendallville, IN 46755
     http://www.dekko.com

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     RE: Old-timer's disease question

       That's what I'm looking at. Time to get out the calculator. This box
     has a
       GB card, but I don't know if the network is configured for gigabyte
       traffic. Plus, I'm flying solo here today. I'm on cd number 6 of the 7
       disk set of cume's for 5.4
       The time stamps on the previous images show right around 2 hours per
     cd.
       I'm downloading from a machine that's on a really fast pipe. I don't
     know
       how fast the pipe on this end might be. ZZZZZZZZZZZ
       --

       Paul Nelson
       Arbor Solutions, Inc.
       708-670-6978  Cell
       pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
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         To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion"
     <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
         From: "Holder, Ken" <kkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
         Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
         Date: 12/22/2006 12:54PM
         Subject: RE: Old-timer's disease question

         I'd look at NETSTAT for a start.  F11 to see the Byte count.

         Hope this helps...

         -----Original Message-----
         From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
         [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
     pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
         Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:52 AM
         To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
         Subject: Old-timer's disease question

           I'm downloading PTF's from IBM right now. I'm trying to remember
     how
         to
           determine the speed of this FTP transfer. Anybody know?
           --

           Paul Nelson
           Arbor Solutions, Inc.
           708-670-6978  Cell
           pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
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